PILATE

“If Socrates was as innocent as this at the age of seventy, it may be imagined how innocent Joan was at the age of seventeen. 

Now, Socrates was a man of argument, operating slowly and peacefully on men's minds, whereas Joan was a woman of action, operating with impetuous violence on their bodies. That, no doubt, is why the contemporaries of Socrates endured him so long, and why Joan was destroyed before she was fully grown. 

But both of them combined terrifying ability with a frankness, personal modesty, and benevolence which made the furious dislike to which they fell victims absolutely unreasonable, and therefore •inapprehensible by themselves.”

PILATE :

 So, you are the King of the Jews? 

JESUS OF NAZARETH :

"King" is your word. 

PILATE :

Well, you are Jesus of Nazareth, aren't you?

JESUS OF NAZARETH :

 Yes, I am. 

PILATE :

That's what they're saying you are.

 The King, the Messiah. 

It's also said that you do miracles. 

Is this good magic or bad magic? 

Could we have some kind of a demonstration? 

I mean, can you do a trick for me, now? 

JESUS OF NAZARETH :

No, I'm not a trained animal. 

I'm not a magician. 

PILATE :

That's disappointing. 

This means that you're just another Jewish politician. 

Do you want to know something? 

You're more dangerous than the Zealots. Do you know that? 

Say something. 

You had better say something. 

All right. Tell me what you tell people on the streets. 

JESUS OF NAZARETH :

Yes? 

PILATE :

Yes. 

JESUS OF NAZARETH :

The prophet Daniel had a vision: A tall statue that had a gold head and silver shoulders. The stomach was bronze, the legs were iron, the feet were clay. 

A stone was thrown. 

The clay feet broke and the statue collapsed. 

You see, God threw the stone.

The stone is me. 

And Rome... 

PILATE :

And Rome is the statue, yes. 

So your kingdom, or your world, will replace Rome. 

Where is it? 

JESUS OF NAZARETH :

My kingdom? It's not here. 

Not on earth. 

PILATE :

It wouldn't be, would it? 

It's one thing to want to change the way that people live... 

...but you want to change how they think, how they feel. 

JESUS OF NAZARETH :

All I'm saying is that change will happen with love, not with killing. 

PILATE :

Either way, it's dangerous. 

It's against Rome. 

It's against the way the world is. 

And killing or loving, it's all the same. 

It simply doesn't matter how you want to change things. 

We don't want them changed. 

You do understand what has to happen? 

We have a space for you up on Golgotha. 

Three thousand skulls there by now. Probably more. 

Guard. 

I do wish you people would go out and count them some time. 

Maybe you'd learn a lesson. 

No - Probably not.