BILL MOYERS:
Essentially, isn’t Star Wars about transformation?
GEORGE LUCAS:
Well, it is about transformation.
And — and ultimately it’ll be about transformation of how young Anakin Skywalker became evil and then was redeemed by His Son.
But it’s also about transformation of how his son came to —
To Find The Call.
Luke works intuitively through most of the movie until he gets to the very end.
Everything up to that point is very intuitive.
He goes back and forth with his emotions about
Fighting His Father
or
Not Fighting His Father.
Finally he comes to that decision to say,
‘No, this is — this is what I have to do.
I have to simply throw my weapon down.’
And it’s only that way that he’s able to redeem His Father, which ultimately is the issue.
It’s not as apparent in the first three movies, but when you see the movies I haven’t made yet, that —
The issue of how do we get Darth Vader back is really the central issue.
How do we get him back to that little boy that he was in the first movie?
That good person who loved and was generous and kind?
BILL MOYERS:
Ultimately …
GEORGE LUCAS:
And had a Good Heart.
BILL MOYERS:
Had a Good Heart.
Ultimately, doesn’t it take, particularly in religion, a — a leap of faith?
What — Kierkegaard’s leap of faith?
GEORGE LUCAS:
Yes. Yes. Definitely.
And that’s — that’s — you’ll notice Luke uses that quite a bit through the films.
Not to rely on his senses, not to rely on — on the computers, not to — but to rely on Faith.
That is what ‘Use The Force’ is, is a leap of faith.
That there are mysteries and powers larger than we are, and that you have to trust your feelings in order to — to access these things.
BILL MOYERS:
Your friend Joseph Campbell called it
‘the perfect eye to see with.’
GEORGE LUCAS:
Mm-hmm.
BILL MOYERS:
How do you develop that eye?
GEORGE LUCAS:
Well, I don’t know. I mean, I don’t know whether I have that eye. But…
BILL MOYERS:
Oh, you do. People — your colleagues tell me you’re always making quick decisions, good or bad.
You’re making intuitive decisions very quickly.
TRY NOT.
DO.
OR DO NOT.
THERE IS NO "Try".
GEORGE LUCAS:
I’m making intuitive decisions because I — I’m — I — I can see the picture in my head even though it’s foggy …
… and I know instantly whether this fits in there or doesn’t.
BILL MOYERS:
Do you have to work to keep nurturing your imagination, to keep feeding that interior pool from which these ideas and images …
GEORGE LUCAS:
I’ve — I’ve never had a problem with that. I mean, my imagination runs wild. It’s — it’s — you know, people say, ‘Well, you’re gonna run out of stories, you gonna … ‘ I — I don’t think I’ll ever run — I have more stories than I can possibly do in my lifetime. And more — and I’m interested in more things to do than I can possibly do in my lifetime. And I’m now beginning to confront the fact that the — the amount of time I’ve got is less and less, that I — more and more things are going to have to go by the wayside, and I’m going to have to focus more on the things that really are meaningful to me, you know, ’cause even if I have 30 or 40 years left, it’s not enough.
