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CBS-News Anchor :
One of The World's leading physicians
describes Donald Trump as, "America's Shadow".
In a recent article,
Dr. Deepak Chopra writes about how
The Shadow includes all Dark Impulses
like Hatred, Aggression, Sadism,
Selfishness, Jealousy and more --
This comes as Dr. Chopra unveils
a new Health and Wellness app.
Earlier, Josh Elliott talked to Dr. Chopra
about his new push for Wellness
as well as The 2016 Presidential election
Dr. Deepak Chopra :
We have to Thank Donald Trump for
Giving Permission to the entire American Public
to expose The Shadow --
He represents The Collective Shadow right now.
The Shadow isthat part of ourselves
that We're embarrassed by --
You know, There's a Racist, There's a Bigot,
There's a Hater, There's a Prejudiced Person,
inALL Human Beings, You know?
We can't accuse just ONE personof being Racist,
or Bigoted, or Prejudiced, or Ethnocentric
or full of Hate, that part comes out
when There's Crisis, when
There are Dehumanizing
conditions, such as War, when
There's poor Leadership, when
There's just Confusion in Society --
So, He represents that, and in a way,
to Become AWARE of that is to start
The Healing Process.
So I Think the fact that
He has become abusive,
He's displayed The Abuser
in ALL of Us.
We have that Shadow, and
The Shadow is primitiveand yet,
millions have expressed Their Support
for him with Their Votes, through
The Primary Season, to this point.
Q.)Is it Fair, then, to Say that, perhaps,
You Do not Line-up Donald Trumpin
The Crosshairs, so much as The Electorate
that has supported him to this point?
He's an exaggerated expression
of something primitive in All of Us,
so just to be aware of that, is -
It's to bring Light to The Shadow.
You can't fight The Shadow,
with The Shadow, okay?
You can't fight Darkness
with Darkness, but
You CAN Shine The Light.
So, He's Helping Us
to Shine The Light --
Q.) What are Your Thoughts, then,
on the presumptive Democratic
nominee, now, Hillary Clinton?
Dr. Deepak Chopra :
I Think right now, that's
The Choice we have:
If You have to make a Conscious Choice,
We have to ask ourselves,
WHO Our Leader will BE --
For the rest of The World, you know,
Leadership comes at several levels;
So, He represents
Survival and Safety --
You might say, you know,
The First Level of Need,
but We have OTHER Needs...
We have Needs for Success, for Jobs,
for Love, for Compassion, for Higher Consciousness;
for Creating a more Peaceful, Just, Sustainable,
Healthier and Happier World, so We have to Decide :
Who Do We want to represent Us
and I know in fact you will be petting a follow-up piece to it --
It's certainly.... It's another....
It's an Interesting Way of Looking,
as a Way of Looking at Ourselves, right now --
What is it in Him, that has
brought-out this amazing
Vulgarity of Dialogue, and
Given Permission to everyone to be
Politically Incorrect as well -- In fact,
if You're Politically Correct, right now,
You are -- You're not even cool.
It's not cool to be Polite, Courteous,
Deferential, Have Good Manners anymore.
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