Showing posts with label The Warrior. Show all posts
Showing posts with label The Warrior. Show all posts

Friday, 2 May 2025

Savage Pleasure


Big lonesome girls trying to satisfy somebody.

Problem-solving is Hunting
it is savage pleasure and 
We are born to it.

Nothing makes us more vulnerable 
than Loneliness, except Greed







“She needed to organise a little, before her head was full of Fredrica’s things. 

Okay, the premise is Buffalo Bill did Fredrica first, weighted her and hid her well, in a river far from Home. He hid her better than the others — she was the only one weighted — because he wanted the later ones found first. He wanted the idea of random selection of victims in widely scattered towns well established before Fredrica, of Belvedere, was found. It was important to take attention away from Belvedere. Because he lives here, or maybe in Columbus. He started with Fredrica because he coveted her hide. 

We don’t begin to covet with imagined things.

Coveting is a very literal sin — we begin to covet with tangibles, we begin with what we see every day. 

He saw Fredrica in the course of his daily life. He saw her in the course of her daily life. What was the course of Fredrica’s daily life? All right… Starling pushed the door open. Here it was, this still room smelling of mildew in the cold. On the wall, last year’s calendar was forever turned to April. Fredrica had been dead ten months. Cat food, hard and black, was in a saucer in the corner. Starling, veteran yard-sale decorator, stood in the center of the room and turned slowly around. Fredrica had done a pretty good job with what she had. There were curtains of flowered chintz. Judging from the piped edges, she had recycled some slipcovers to make the curtains. There was a bulletin board with a sash pinned to it. BHS BAND was printed on the sash in glitter. A poster of the performer Madonna was on the wall, and another of Deborah Harry and Blondie. On a shelf above the desk, Starling could see a roll of the bright self-adhesive wallpaper Fredrica had used to cover her walls. It was not a great job of papering, but better than her own first effort, Starling thought. In an average home, Fredrica’s room would have been cheerful. In this bleak house, it was shrill; there was an echo of desperation in it. Fredrica did not display photographs of herself in the room. Starling found one in the school yearbook on the small bookcase. Glee Club, Home-Ec Club, Sew ’n’ Sew, Band, 4-H Club—maybe the pigeons served as her 4-H project. Fredrica’s school annual had some signatures. “To a great pal,” and a “great gal” and “my chemistry buddy,” and “Remember the bake sale?!!” Could Fredrica bring her friends up here? Did she have a friend good enough to bring up those stairs beneath the drip? There was an umbrella beside the door. Look at this picture of Fredrica, here she’s in the front row of the band. Fredrica is wide and fat, but her uniform fits better than the others. She’s big and she has beautiful skin. Her irregular features combine to make a pleasant face, but she is not attractive looking by conventional standards. Kimberly Emberg wasn’t what you would call fetching either, not to the mindless gape of high school, and neither were a couple of the others. Catherine Martin, though, would be attractive to anybody, a big, good-looking young woman who would have to fight the fat when she was thirty. Remember, he doesn’t look at women as a man looks at them. Conventionally attractive doesn’t count. They just have to be smooth and roomy. Starling wondered if he thought of women as “skins,” the way some cretins call them “cunts.” She became aware of her own hand tracing the line of credits beneath the yearbook picture, became aware of her entire body, the space she filled, her figure and her face, their effect, the power in them, her breasts above the book, her hard belly against it, her legs below it. What of her experience applied? Starling saw herself in the full-length mirror on the end wall and was glad to be different from Fredrica. But she knew the difference was a matrix in her thinking. What might it keep her from seeing? How did Fredrica want to appear? What was she hungry for, where did she seek it? What did she try to do about herself? Here were a couple of diet plans, the Fruit Juice Diet, the Rice Diet, and a crackpot plan where you don’t eat and drink at the same sitting. Organized diet groups—did Buffalo Bill watch them to find big girls? Hard to check. Starling knew from the file that two of the victims had belonged to diet groups and that the membership rosters had been compared. An agent from the Kansas City office, the FBI’s traditional Fat Boys’ Bureau, and some overweight police were sent around to work out at Slenderella, and Diet Center, and join Weight Watchers and other diet denominations in the victims’ towns. She didn’t know if Catherine Martin belonged to a diet group. Money would have been a problem for Fredrica in organized dieting. Fredrica had several issues of Big Beautiful Girl, a magazine for large women. Here she was advised to “come to New York City, where you can meet newcomers from parts of the world where your size is considered a prized asset.” Right. Alternatively, “you could travel to Italy or Germany, where you won’t be alone after the first day.” You bet. Here’s what to do if your toes hang out over the ends of your shoes. Jesus! All Fredrica needed was to meet Buffalo Bill, who considered her size a “prized asset.” How did Fredrica manage? She had some makeup, a lot of skin stuff. Good for you, use that asset. Starling found herself rooting for Fredrica as though it mattered anymore. She had some junk jewelry in a White Owl cigar box. Here was a gold-filled circle pin that most likely had belonged to her late mother. She’d tried to cut the fingers off some old gloves of machine lace, to wear them Madonna-style, but they’d raveled on her. She had some music, a single-shot Decca record player from the fifties with a jackknife attached to the tone arm with rubber bands for weight. Yard-sale records. Love themes by Zamfir, Master of the Pan Flute. When she pulled the string to light the closet, Starling was surprised at Fredrica’s wardrobe. She had nice clothes, not a great many, but plenty for school, enough to get along in a fairly formal office or even a dressy retail job. A quick look inside them, and Starling saw the reason. Fredrica made her own, and made them well; the seams were bound with a serger, the facings carefully fitted. Stacks of patterns were on a shelf at the back of the closet. Most of them were Simplicity, but there were a couple of Vogues that looked hard. She probably wore her best thing to the job interview. What had she worn? Starling flipped through her file. Here: last seen wearing a green outfit. Come on, Officer, what the hell is a “green outfit”? Fredrica suffered from the Achilles’ heel of the budget wardrobe—she was short on shoes—and at her weight she was hard on the shoes she had. Her loafers were strained into ovals. She wore Odor-Eaters in her sandals. The eyelets were stretched in her running shoes. Maybe Fredrica exercised a little—she had some outsized warmups. They were made by Juno. Catherine Martin also had some fat pants made by Juno. Starling backed out of the closet. She sat on the foot of the bed with her arms folded and stared into the lighted closet. Juno was a common brand, sold in a lot of places that handle outsizes, but it raised the question of clothing. Every town of any size has at least one store specializing in clothes for fat people. Did Buffalo Bill watch fat stores, select a customer and follow her? Did he go into oversize shops in drag and look around? Every oversize shop in a city gets both transvestites and drag queens as customers. The idea of Buffalo Bill trying to cross over sexually had just been applied to the investigation very recently, since Dr Lecter gave Starling his theory. What about his clothes? All of the victims must have shopped in fat stores—Catherine Martin would wear a twelve, but the others couldn’t, and Catherine must have shopped in an oversize store to buy the big Juno sweats. Catherine Martin could wear a twelve. She was the smallest of the victims. Fredrica, the first victim, was largest. How was Buffalo Bill managing to down-size with the choice of Catherine Martin? Catherine was plenty buxom, but she wasn’t that big around. Had he lost weight himself? Might he have joined a diet group lately? Kimberly Emberg was sort of in-between, big, but with a good waist indention … Starling had specifically avoided thinking about Kimberly Emberg, but now the memory swamped her for a second. Starling saw Kimberly on the slab in Potter. Buffalo Bill hadn’t cared about her waxed legs, her carefully glittered fingernails : he looked at Kimberly’s flat bosom and it wasn’t good enough and he took his pistol and blew a starfish in her chest. The door to the room pushed open a few inches. Starling felt the movement in her heart before she knew what it was. A cat came in, a large tortoiseshell cat with one eye gold, the other blue. It hopped up on the bed and rubbed against her. Looking for Fredrica. Loneliness. Big lonesome girls trying to satisfy somebody. The Police had eliminated lonely-hearts clubs early. Did Buffalo Bill have another way to take advantage of loneliness? Nothing makes us more vulnerable than loneliness, except greed

Loneliness might have permitted Buffalo Bill an opening with Fredrica, but not with Catherine. Catherine wasn’t lonesome. 

Kimberly was lonesome. Don’t start this. Kimberly, obedient and limp, past rigor mortis, being rolled over on the mortician’s table so Starling could fingerprint her. Stop it. Can’t stop it. Kimberly lonesome, anxious to please; had Kimberly ever rolled over obediently for someone, just to feel his heart beat against her back? She wondered if Kimberly had felt whiskers grating between her shoulder blades. 

Staring into the lighted closet, Starling remembered Kimberly’s plump back, the triangular patches of skin missing from her shoulders. 

Staring into the lighted closet, Starling saw the triangles on Kimberly’s shoulders outlined in the blue dashes of a dressmaking pattern. The idea swam away and circled and came again, came close enough for her to grab it this time and she did with a fierce pulse of joy : THEY’RE DARTS — HE TOOK THOSE TRIANGLES TO MAKE DARTS SO HE COULD LET OUT HER WAIST. MOTHERFUCKER CAN SEW. BUFFALO BILL’S TRAINED TO SERIOUSLY SEW — HE’S NOT JUST PICKING OUT READY-TO-WEAR. 

What did Dr Lecter say? “He’s making himself a girl suit out of real girls.” What did he say to me? “Do you sew, Clarice?” Damn straight I do. 

Starling put her head back, closed her eyes for one second. Problem-solving is Hunting; it is savage pleasure and We are born to it. 

She’d seen a telephone in the parlor. She started downstairs to use it, but Mrs Bimmel’s reedy voice was calling up to her already, calling her to the phone.

Tuesday, 27 July 2021

Warrior

“You are in Great Pain

aren't you?


You KNOW 

What Evil lurks in The Hearts of Men

for you have •seen• 

That Evil in Your OWN Heart. 


Every Man pays A Price for Redemption 

This is Yours.”


“I’m not lookin' for Redemption!”


“You Have 

NO CHOICE --


You WILL be redeemed, 

Because •I• will Teach you to 

USE Your Black Shadow 

to FIGHT Evil.”








“So, you know, I have felt that 
The Men have suffered a great deal 
in losing The Wild Man
which is a certain form of 
spontaneity connected with 
The Wilderness itself. 

And they’ve suffered a great deal 
since the Second World War 
in losing The Warrior. 
It’s very strange how this works.

We gave up the The King, that is, 
we founded our country 
with getting rid of The King. 

And you know, 
The King is weak in American Men also 
How can it be otherwise?

MOYERS: 
The King being–

BLY: 
The King [being] The Part of The Man 
that determines What He is Going to Do Now. 
What My Course is Going to Be.


“ On December 16, 1961, The World turned upside down and inside out, and I was born, screaming, in America.


It was the end of 
The American Dream, 
just before we lost our innocence irrevocably, 
and the TV Eye brought 
The Horror of Our Lives 
into our homes for all to see.

I was told when I grew up, 
I could be anything I wanted – 


A Fireman, 
A Policeman, 
A Doctor. 

Even President
it seemed. 
And for the first time in The History of Mankind, 
something new called 
An 'Astronaut.'

But like many kids growing up 
on a steady diet of Westerns, 
I always wanted to be 
The Cowboy Hero :– 


That Lone Voice in The Wilderness 
fighting Corruption and Evil, wherever I found it, 

and standing for 
Freedom, Truth and Justice.


And in my 
Heart of Hearts, 
I still track the remnants 
of That Dreamwherever I go, 
on my never-ending ride 
into The Setting Sun.


“.....Unbelievable. 

And you know what’s wild, people’s, er, 
attitudes in the States about it. 
Talking about Kennedy, people come up to me :

“Bill, quit talking about Kennedy, man. 
Let it •go•. It was a long •time• ago – 
just •forget• about it.”

And I’m like 
“Alright, then don’t bring up Jesus to me.”

Why….?
And Why 
The Hell Not….?

“Because you’re PISSING PEOPLE OFF, that’s •WHY• !!”

You bring up Kennedy, 
you alienate registered Republicans;
You bring up Jesus, 
you alienate atheists, liberals,
Movement Skeptics,
The Ron Paul People,
and 
ALL non-Christians —

•Nobody• has a problem with 
King Arthur....

The man didn’t even instigate A Crusade, for crying out loud....



“Bill, you know Jesus died for your si -”

Yeah, well it was 
long time ago
Forget about it!



How about this —
Get Pilate to release the fuckin’ files..!!
Quit washing your hands Pilate – Release The Goddam Files
Who else was on that grassy Golgotha that day?
“Bill, it was just, you know, hur, 
The Taking-over of Democracy
by a Totalitarian Government, 
let it go—”

" There is A Way of Bringing up The Child of a Samurai. 
From the time of infancy one should 
encourage bravery and avoid trivially frightening or teasing the child. 

If a person is affected by cowardice 
as A Child, it remains a lifetime scar. 

It is a mistake for parents to thoughtlessly make their children dread lightening, or to have them not go into dark places, or to tell them frightening things in order to stop them from crying.

Furthermore, A Child will become timid 
if he is scolded severely. 

One should not allow bad habits to form. 

After a bad habit is ingrained, 
although you admonish the child, 
he will not improve. 

As for such things as proper speaking and good manners, 
gradually make the child aware of them. 
Let him not know avarice. 

Other than that, if he is of a normal nature, 
he should develop well by the way he is brought up. 

Moreover, the child of parents who 
have a bad relationship will be unfilial. 

This is natural. Even the birds and beasts are affected 
by what they are used to seeing and hearing 
from the time they are born. 

Also, the relationship between Father and Child 
may deteriorate because of A Mother's Foolishness. 

A Mother loves Her Child above all things
and will be partial to The Child 
that is corrected by His Father. 

If she becomes The Child's Ally, 
there will be discord between Father and Son. 
Because of the shallowness of her mind, 
A Woman sees The Child as her support in old age. "






“So therefore, with My Father, I do not want or need to be shamed by him any longer. 
Well, that means that there has been some movement to get the doorknob on the inside of the door. 

That’s called A Warrior. A 
Warrior is NOT someone that goes off and kills. That’s the negative Warrior. 
That’s the one that’s without The King. 
But each of us needs our Warrior desperately.

Women have a very fierce Warrior in them, you know. They have a very fierce Warrior. And I would say that the women, in the last 20 years, have a much greater sense of their own boundaries than The Men do.

So, you know, I have felt that the men have suffered a great deal in losing THE WILD MAN, which is a certain form of spontaneity connected with The Wilderness ITSELF. 
And they’ve suffered a great deal since the Second World War in losing The Warrior. 
It’s very strange how this works.

We gave up The King, that is, we founded Our Country with getting rid of The King. And you know, The King is WEAK in American Men also; how can it be otherwise?”

MOYERS: 
The King being–

BLY: 
The King [being] the part of The Man that determines what he is going to do now. What my course is going to be.

MOYERS: 
The King can decide that for himself. That’s the whole image.

BLY: 
This is the inner King, the one who’s down there, who decides. And when he comes in “Follow your bliss,” is what Joe Campbell said. That means that the king decides that. You don’t join IBM and then do what your boss wants you to do. That means there’s only one king in the whole thing, and that’s the boss, and everybody else is a non-king.

MOYERS: 
It’s the way the world works.

BLY: 
Yeah, it’s the way it works. That’s the way it destroys inner kings in all of the men and in most of the women. So the king, then, is that part of you that can decide. And I mean it’s very private, too, because there are various kinds of kings.

Thursday, 22 April 2021

Of course. And Do You Know HOW You Know That?



“I have to say I did come to the 'end' of all magic as I'd known it and been practising for 25 years and, like a man standing blinking and dazed, ears ringing at ground zero of a nuclear blast, I'm trying to find novel ways to explain what has happened and present it to the world in the form of Blank Magic. 

The Filth was written from the eye of the experience. 
All the really good stuff is still to come. 

For anyone who cares to keep up with these things, 
(and I'm sure many of my readers are practitioners), 
the Qabalistic wisdom I carried home from The Filth Working 
is very simple and profound and is expressed by Greg Feely 
in the scene behind the flower shop - 

The Crown is in The Kingdom, 
and 
The Reverse is Also True. 

And for Enochian magic enthusiasts, 
Greg can be read as Nemo tending his garden if you like.

Of course it took me a long time and a lyric from the new Monster Magnet record to finally get 
The Real Message of The Abyss :

'Shut your mouth, 
you big fucking baby!' 

So I will and Horus, 
crazy Child-God of The Aeon, 
will too
if you tell him

IAMIUHUAMI

Well hopefully you're over that, still hurts I know 
but you can't freely climb The Tree 
if you confine yourself to The Dirt. 

Of course. I feel a whole lot better now 
but times were fucked up for a while 
and it's shaken me right down to my boots.”



“I guess I have to do The Only Thing I CAN Do — ACCEPTANCE.

 

And 

Forgiveness — 

It’s The ONLY Tools We’ve Got Left.

 

And Evolution

if yer interested in it."   




CLARA: 
It's no good, Bonnie. 
You can't win. 

CLARA-Z: 
I don't care. 

DOCTOR: 
Hi! Hello! Hello! 

(The two Zygons seize Clara.)

DOCTOR: 
Oh, hello! Hi. Hi. 
Stop this. Stop this, please. 

Let me take both of these boxes away.

We'll forgive, we'll forget. 
And the ceasefire will stand. 

CLARA-Z: 
No. 

Kate goes to the red box.

KATE: 
Doctor, which of these buttons do I press? 
Doctor, which one

Truth or Consequences

Bonnie aka Clara-Zygon 
stands at the blue box.

CLARA-Z: 
Truth or Consequences

DOCTOR: 
This is the Moment 
we've all been waiting for. 

Make your mind up time! 

He goes into American Game Show Host mode

DOCTOR: 
One of those buttons 
will destroy The Zygons, 
Release The Imbecile's gas.
 
The Other One detonates 
The Nuclear Warhead under The Black Archive. 
It'll Destroy Everyone in London.

Bonnie. 
Bonnie, sweetheart! 

One of those buttons 
will unmask every Zygon in The World. 

The Other One cancels their ability 
to change form. 

It'll make them 
Human Beings for ever

normal


There are safeguards 
beyond safeguards. 

I did this on a very 
important day for me 
and this ceasefire will stand. 

CLARA-Z: 
This is Wrong. 

DOCTOR: 
No, it's not

CLARA-Z: 
You are responsible for all the violence. 
All of the suffering.
 
DOCTOR: 
No, I'm not

CLARA-Z: 
Yes. 

DOCTOR: 
No. 

CLARA-Z: 
Yes. You engineered this situation, Doctor. 
This is your fault. 

DOCTOR: 
No, it's not. 
It's your fault. 

CLARA-Z: 
I had to do 
What I've Done. 

DOCTOR: 
So Did I. 

CLARA-Z: 
We've been treated like cattle. 

DOCTOR: 
So what.

CLARA-Z: 
We've been left to fend for ourselves. 

DOCTOR: 
So's everyone. 

CLARA-Z: 
It's Not Fair. 

DOCTOR: 
Oh, it's not Fair
Oh, I didn't realise that it was 
Not Fair! 

Well, you know what? 
My TARDIS doesn't work properly 
and I don't have my own personal Tailor. 

CLARA-Z: 
The things don't equate. 

DOCTOR: 
These things have happened, Zygella. 
They are facts

You just want cruelty to beget cruelty

You're not superior to people who were cruel to you. 
You're just a whole bunch of new cruel people. 

A whole bunch of new cruel people 
being cruel to some other people, 
who'll end up being cruel to you. 

The only way anyone can live in peace 
is if they're prepared to forgive. 

Why don't you break the cycle? 

CLARA-Z: 
Why should we? 

DOCTOR: 
What is it that you actually want

(After a long pause.)

CLARA-Z: 
War

DOCTOR: 
Ah. Ah, right. 
And when this war is over, when you have a homeland free from humans, what do you think it's going to be like? 

Do you know? 
Have you thought about it? 

Have you given it any consideration? 

Because you're very close to getting 
What You Want. 

What's it going to be like? Paint me a picture. 
Are you going to live in houses? 

Do you want people to go to work?
Will there be holidays? 

Oh! Will there be music? 
Do you think people will be allowed 
to play violins? 
Who's going to make the violins? Well? 

Oh, you don't actually know, do you? 

Because, like every other 
tantrumming child in history, Bonnie, 
You don't actually know What You Want. 

So, let me ask you A Question 
about this Brave New World of yours :-- 

When you've killed all The Bad Guys, 
and when it's all Perfect and Just and Fair
when you have finally got it 
exactly The Way You Want It --

What are You Going to Do with 
The People Like You

The Troublemakers

How are you going to protect 
Your Glorious Revolution from 
The Next One? 

CLARA-Z: 
We'll win. 

DOCTOR: 
Oh, will you? Well, maybe, 
maybe you will win! 

But nobody wins for long
The Wheel just keeps turning. 

So, come on. 
Break The Cycle. 

CLARA-Z: 
Why are you still talking? 

DOCTOR: 
Because I Want to 
Get You to See
and I'm almost there! 

CLARA-Z: 
Do you know what I see, Doctor? 

A Box. 

A Box with Everything I Need
A fifty percent chance. 

KATE: 
For us, too. 

Both women have their hands poised 
over the buttons. 
The Doctor resumes Games Host mode.

DOCTOR: 
And we're off! Fingers on buzzers! 
Are you feeling lucky? 

Are you ready to 
Play The Game? 

Who's going to be quickest? 
Who's going to be luckiest? 

KATE: 
This is not A Game! 

DOCTOR: 
No, it's not A Game, sweetheart, 
and I mean that most sincerely. 


CLARA-Z: 
Why are you doing this? 

KATE: 
Yes, I'd quite like to know that, too. 
You set this up. Why




DOCTOR
Because it's not A Game, Kate. 
This is a scale model of War

Every war ever fought, 
right there in front of you. 

Because it's always the same —
When you fire that first shot, 
no matter how right you feel, 
You Have No Idea Who's Going to Die! 

You don't know whose children 
are going to scream and burn

How many hearts will be broken! 
How many lives shattered! 

How much blood will spill until 
everybody does what they were always 
going to have to do
from The Very Beginning -- 

Sit Down and Talk! 

(sigh) 

Listen to me. 
Listen, I just, I just want you to think

Do you know what thinking is
It's just a fancy word for changing your mind. 

CLARA-Z
I will not change my mind. 

Dr. Disco : 
Then you will die stupid. 

Alternatively, you could 
step away from that box, 
You can walk right out of that door 
and you could stand 
Your Revolution down

CLARA-Z: 
No! I'm not stopping this, Doctor. 
I started it. I will not stop it. 

You think They'll let me go
after what I've done? 

Dr. Disco : 
You're all the same, you screaming kids.
You know that? 

"Look at me, I'm unforgivable."
 
Well, here's the unforeseeable : 
I forgive you. 
After all you've done, I forgive you. 

CLARA-Z: 
You don't understand. 
You will never understand. 

Dr. Disco : 
I don't understand? 
Are you kidding? Me

Of course I understand. 
I mean, do you call this a war? 
This funny little thing? 

This is not a war

I fought in a bigger war 
than you will ever know.

I did worse things 
than you could ever imagine

And when I close my eyes 
I hear more screams 
than anyone could ever 
be able to count

And do you know what you do 
with all that pain? 
Shall I tell you where you put it? 

You hold it tight 
'til it burns your hand, 
and you say this :

"No one else will ever 
have to live like this. 

No one else will have to 
feel this pain. 

Not on my watch!"

(Kate closes the lid of the red box and steps back.)

Dr. Disco : 
Thank you. 
Thank you.

KATE: 
I'm sorry. 

Dr. Disco : 
I know. I know. 
Thank you. 

(to Clara-Z

Well? 

(Long, LONG pause.)



CLARA-Z:
It's empty, isn't it? 

Both boxes. 

There's nothing in them. 
Just buttons

DOCTOR : 
Of course

And do you know 
How you know that? 

Because you've started 
to think like me

Clara-Z drops her hand away 
from the buttons.

DOCTOR: 
It's Hell, isn't it?
 
No one should have 
to think like that. 

And no one will
Not on Our Watch

Their eyes meet

Gotcha.

CLARA-Z: 
How can you be so sure? 

DOCTOR: 
Because you have a disadvantage, Zygella. 

I know that face. 

KATE: 
This is all very well, 
but we know the boxes are empty now --

We can't forget that

DOCTOR: 
No, well, er, you've said that 
the last fifteen times

He sonics the memory filter 
in the ceiling. 

Bang!  

Osgood leans an unconscious Kate 
against a rack of stuff. 

Clara-Z closes the blue box. 

Sunday, 31 March 2019

The Klingon Face








Although Chinese writer Lin Yutang claimed “Face cannot be translated or defined”, compare these definitions:


• Face is an image of self, delineated in terms of approved social attributes.


• Face is the respectability and/or deference which a person can claim for himself or herself from others.

Face is something that is emotionally invested, and that can be lost, maintained, or enhanced, and must be constantly attended to in interaction.


• Face is a sense of worth that comes from knowing one’s status and reflecting concern with the congruence between one’s performance or appearance and one’s real worth.


• “Face” means “sociodynamic valuation”, a lexical hyponym of words meaning “prestige; dignity; honor; respect; status”.




“The term “face” keeps cropping up in our conversation, and it seems such a simple expression that I doubt whether many people give it much thought. Recently, however, we have heard this word on the lips of foreigners too, who seem to be studying it. They find it extremely hard to understand, but believe that “face” is the key to the Chinese spirit and that grasping it will be like grabbing a queue twenty-four years ago [when wearing a queue was compulsory] – everything else will follow.”


“Interesting as the Chinese physiological face is, the psychological face makes a still more fascinating study. It is not a face that can be washed or shaved, but a face that can be “granted” and “lost” and “fought for” and “presented as a gift”. Here we arrive at the most curious point of Chinese social psychology. Abstract and intangible, it is yet the most delicate standard by which Chinese social intercourse is regulated.”




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Face_%28sociological_concept%29



Miàn 面 “face; personal esteem;10countenance; surface; side” occurs in words like:


miànzi 面子 “face; side; reputation; self-respect; prestige, honor; social standing”


miànmù 面目 (“face and eyes”) “face; appearance; respect; social standing; prestige; honor(only used in ancient Chinese prose. Now it only means appearance)”


miànpí 面皮 (“face skin”) “facial skin; complexion; feelings; sensitivity; sense of shame


tǐmiàn 體面 (“body face”) “face; good looking; honor; dignity; prestige”


qíngmian 情面 (“feelings face”) “face; prestige; favor; kindness; partiality”


Hsien-chin Hu says,


“Can be borrowed, struggled for, added to, padded, — all terms indicating a gradual increase in volume. It is built up through initial high position, wealth, power, ability, through cleverly establishing social ties to a number of prominent people, as well as through avoidance of acts that would cause unfavorable comment.” (1944:61) 


Liǎn 臉 “face; countenance; respect; reputation; prestige” is seen in several “face” words:


liǎnshàng 臉上 (“face on/above”) “one’s face; honor; respect”

liǎnmiàn 臉面 (“face face”) “face; self-respect; prestige; influence”


liǎnpí 臉皮 (“face skin”) “face; sensitivity; compassion”

Hu (1944:51–52) contrasts méiyǒu liǎn 沒有臉 (“without face”) “audacious; wanton; shameless” as “the most severe condemnation that can be made of a person” and bùyào liǎn 不要臉 (“don’t want face”) “shameless; selfishly inconsiderate” as “a serious accusation meaning that ego does not care what society thinks of his character, that he is ready to obtain benefits for himself in defiance of moral standards”.


Yán 顏 “face; prestige; reputation; honor” occurs in the common expression diū yán 丟顏 and the words:


yánhòu 顏厚 (“face thick”) or hòuyán 厚顏 “thick-skinned; brazen; shameless; impudent”


yánmiàn 顏面 (“face face”) “face; honor; prestige”


Alexander, Son of Worf : Listen to me, Alexander. When a human looks at you, he does not see himself. He sees a Klingon.


Alexander Rozhenko, of No House : It doesn't matter what I look like.



Alexander, Son of Worf : It DOES.