Wednesday, 27 August 2025

Jack & Stan

 



“….The yearbook for his DeWitt Clinton graduating class 
of 1939 reveals an array of clubs in which he was a member, 
from The Future Lawyers Club to the school literary magazine, 
The Magpie, for which he served as — appropriately enough
 The Publicist

He was fond of telling A Story about that job, one that, 
in true Stan Lee style, deviated from The Truth 
He would tell of climbing a painter’s ladder 
in the room where The Magpie operated 
and painting the words “Stan Lee Is God” 
on the ceiling, but very late in life, 
when questioned about his use of 
that nom de plume at such an early age, 
he said he probably wrote “Stan Lieber Is God.” 
Or maybe none of that story happened at all

Whatever the case, his yearbook entry summed up 
a philosophy that would stay with him for the rest of his life: 
When asked for his life’s goal, he wrote, 
Reach the Top — and STAY There.”





Stan : Dr. Jones. You looking for me?


Jack : Belloq.


Stan : Good afternoon, Dr. Jones.


Jack I ought to kill you right now.


Stan : Not a very private place for A Murder.


Jack :

Well, these Arabs don't care if we kill each other.

They're not going to interfere in our business.


Stan : It was not I who brought the girl into this business.


Please, sit down before you fall down.

We can at least behave like civilised people.


Jack : I see your taste in friends remains consistent.


Stan : How odd that it should end this way for us, 

after so many stimulating encounters. I almost regret it.

Where shall I find a new adversary so close to my own level?


Jack : Try the local sewer.


Stan : You and I are very much alike.

Archaeology is our religion, yet 

we have both fallen from the purer faith.

Our methods have not differed as much as you pretend.


I am a shadowy reflection of you.

It would take only a nudge to make 

You like Me, to push you out of The Light.


Jack : ….Now you're getting nasty.


Stan : You know it's true.


Jack : ….How nice.


Stan : Look at this — It's worthless.

Ten dollars from a vendor in the street.


But I take it, I bury it in the sand 

for a thousand years, it becomes 

priceless... like The Ark.


Men will kill for it.

Men like You and Me



Jack : What about your boss, der Fuehrer?

I thought he was waiting to take possession.


Stan : All in good time.

When I am finished with it.


Jones, Do you realise what The Ark is?

It's A Transmitter — It's A Radio,

for speaking to God 


And it's within my reach.


Jack : You want to Talk to God?

Let's go see Him together.

I've got nothing better to do.


Uncle Indy, come back home now!


Uncle Indy!


Stan : Next time, Indiana Jones, it'll 

take more than children to save you.


Uncle Indy!


Sallah : I thought I would find you there.

Better than the United States Marines, eh?


Jack : …..Marion's dead.


Sallah : Yes

I know. I'm sorry.

Life goes on, Indy.

There is the proof.


Jack : Uh-oh.


Sallah : I have much to tell you.

First we will take them home, and 

then I will take you to the old man.



“But perhaps the oddest fact of all was the way the school, in Stan’s day, influenced the development of the American comic book. In addition to Stan, DeWitt Clinton gave diplomas to both of Batman’s creators, Bob Kane and Bill Finger, as well as to the first master of the full-length graphic novel, Will Eisner, who is often regarded as the greatest American cartoonist of all time. However, Stan never spoke of having any relationships with these men. Indeed, the only fellow student he ever spoke of at any length was a boy named John J. McKenna, Jr. McKenna never went on to fame or fortune, but he made an impression on Stan, thanks to his part-time job: selling subscriptions to The New York Times to fellow students. Stan waxed rhapsodic about this boy in Excelsior, devoting about as much space, if not more, to him as he did to his own family members. Here’s just a portion of the remembrance: I was one of the first to subscribe, but the main thing on my mind was, Man, if only I could address an audience as confidently as that and speak off the cuff as glibly as he. He spoke for about ten full minutes, looking his audience straight in the eye, never once fumbling or losing the attention of the class. I was terribly impressed by the smooth, easygoing way he made his pitch and the way he managed to hold the interest of the students while talking about a subject that normally would bore the pants off them. I decided that I wanted to be able to speak that way, to be able to hold the attention of an audience the way he did. There does appear to have been a New Yorker named John J. McKenna, Jr., whose birth date would make him roughly Stan’s age, but the rest of the story may well be apocryphal. What matters is that Stan devoted so much energy to conveying it to his fans. “He never knew it,” Stan wrote, “but McKenna, with his great gift of gab, who could make a tough teenage audience listen attentively to every word he had to say, was one of my first role models (after the aforementioned Leon B. Ginsberg, Jr., of course).” In this tale, Stan laid out a trio of traits that he valued enormously throughout his professional life: confidence, charisma, and salesmanship. McKenna knew how to generate demand and move product, and Stan wanted in on that action. In a very concrete way, he achieved that goal insofar as he said he subsequently got his own job selling newspaper subscriptions, albeit for the publication that had so lukewarmly reviewed him in that essay contest, the Herald Tribune. That was only one of Stan’s micro-professions in that era. Dress-cutting was a gig-based trade, without much in the way of stability, and Jack’s chronic unemployment during the years following the Great Crash of 1929 took a toll on the familial wallet. According to Stan, Jack once owned a diner—something relatively common among Romanian Jews—but it swiftly went bankrupt. Even while Stan was a student at DeWitt Clinton, he was regularly employed in one odd job or another, according to his recollections. The anecdotes about these jobs would roll out of him whenever he recounted his youth, their order getting mixed up, and it was always unclear which ones he did in high school and which came after graduation. There was the time he wrote advance obituaries about celebrities who had yet to die. There was the time the Goodman family apparently linked him up with a Jewish employment network that netted him a remote job writing publicity copy for a tuberculosis hospital in Denver called the National Jewish Health (“I could never understand what I was trying to do—get people to get tuberculosis so they go to the hospital?”), although the hospital tells me they have no record of his doing so. He said he did paid acting work in a theater program run by the Works Progress Administration, in no small part because a girl he liked was doing the same—but no record of his being employed there has survived, if there ever was one. He said he delivered sandwiches from the Jack May drugstore to the offices of Rockefeller Center and that he was faster than all of his fellow delivery boys. He spoke of working as an office boy for a trousers manufacturer and, feeling exploited and disrespected by the higher-ups, throwing a pile of informational papers into disarray after being fired. He said he worked as an usher at Midtown Manhattan’s Rivoli Theatre and once walked Eleanor Roosevelt to her seat, tripping over someone’s foot in the process. In contrast to all these jobs, school held little interest for Stan. “I didn’t hate being in school,” he would later tell an interviewer, “but I just kept wishing it was over and I could get into the real world.” That said, he did find himself involved in school life, albeit in an extracurricular manner. 


The yearbook for his DeWitt Clinton graduating class of 1939 reveals an array of clubs in which he was a member, from the Future Lawyers Club to the school literary magazine, The Magpie, for which he served as—appropriately enough — the publicist. He was fond of telling a story about that job, one that, in true Stan Lee style, deviated from the truth: He would tell of climbing a painter’s ladder in the room where The Magpie operated and painting the words “Stan Lee Is God” on the ceiling, but very late in life, when questioned about his use of that nom de plume at such an early age, he said he probably wrote “Stan Lieber Is God.” Or maybe none of that story happened at all. Whatever the case, his yearbook entry summed up a philosophy that would stay with him for the rest of his life: When asked for his life’s goal, he wrote, “Reach the Top — and STAY There.”


Riesman, Abraham. True Believer: The Rise and Fall of Stan Lee (pp. 36-39). 


Flavour, Spice & Nuance




Indy : I can't figure out how Belloq did it.

Where'd he get a copy of the headpiece?

There are no pictures, no duplicates of it anywhere.


Sallah

I tell you only what I saw with my own eyes:

A headpiece like that one, except round 

the edges, which were rougher.


In the centre, The Frenchman 

had embedded a crystal, and...

and surrounding the crystal, on one side, 

there were raised markings, just like that one.


Indy : They made their calculations in the map room?


This morning. Belloq and the boss German, Dietrich.

When they came out of the map room, they gave us 

new spot in which to dig, out away from the camp.


Indy : The Well of the Souls, huh?


The Wise Old Arab : Come, come, look. 

Look here... look. Sit down. Come, sit down.


Indy : What is it?


The Wise Old Arab : This is a warning 

not to disturb The Ark of The Covenant.


Indy : What about the height of The Staff, 

though? Did Belloq get it off of here?


The Wise Old Arab : Yes. It is here.

This were the old way, this mean “six kadam high”.


Indy :(does The Calculation instantly

— About 72 inches.


The Wise Old Arab : - Wait!

"And take back one kadam to honour 

the Hebrew God whose Ark this is."


Indy : Balloq's medallion only had 

writing on one side? You sure about that? 


SallahPositive!


Indy : Balloq's staff is too long


Indy :Sallah: (together)

They're digging  in the wrong place!

Mary Skrenes



"....As it was, he barely looked at the comics. He took a look at Iron Man for the first time in over a year, saw the triangular nose that had been added to the helmet on his own orders, and said,

"What's this — why is this here?"

"You don't want that?"

"Well, it looks kind of strange, doesn't it?" Lee zoomed away, on to the next thing.


Everything was big-picture now : synergy, demographics, partnerships. Lee called at least one meeting to remind writers not to make major changes to characters, lest those changes jeopardize deals with licensees

Decisions were being made, Steve Englehart said, "not by Stan Lee as the top of a bunch of creative people, but by Stan Lee as the bottom of a bunch of businessmen. And he began to really put his energy up into the business end of it rather than down into the creative end below."

As out of touch as he was with the creative process, by now even Stan Lee knew that fans were clamoring for more of Howard the Duck. Howard's sporadic appearances, in the back pages of the tremendously titled Giant-Size Man-Thing, produced an avalanche of mail, and Steve Gerber found himself meeting with Lee about Howard getting his own title. 

Accompanying Gerber was Mary Skrenes, a college friend of Alan Weiss who'd moved to New York and easily fallen into freelance comic writing. Skrenes found that she loved comics, but it took some time getting used to the man-child comic pros that surrounded her. Gerber, whom she met on a visit to the Marvel offices, was an exception: "I came in," she said, "and everybody clustered around me. Some of these guys weren't used to girls. So they were all around me, saying things like, 'I've been having trouble... I hate to go to sleep….. I hate to wake up, and I looked up and I saw this big head bouncing toward me from the other room. It was Steve Gerber. He took my hand, and led me out of the room. All these guys are like, 'What?""

She quickly became Gerber's muse - the inspiration for Howard the Duck's go-go dancing girlfriend, Beverly Switzler — and writing partner. They began dating and soon moved in together. Her sensibility was every bit as skewed as his. When she was asked to take a crack at conceptualizing a superheroine with the name of Ms. Marvel, she turned in a proposal about Loretta Petta, a petite, dyslexic waitress who'd moved from a trailer park to the big city. "When she would get pissed—in the first issue, somebody robbed her diner-she would get super-adrenaline strength. They didn't want her to be tiny and dys-lexic; they wanted her to be statuesque. Stan just didn't like it."* 

( * A different version of Ms. Marvel would eventually see the light of day, written by Gerry Conway: Carol Danvers, a security agent at Cape Kennedy Space Center, was a bystander during a battle between Captain Marvel and his Kree enemy; when an exploding piece of Kree technology radiated her, she gained the strength of ten men and "the knowledge and instincts of a Kree warrior." She left her security job to edit Woman magazine for the Daily Bugle's J. Jonah Jameson. )

But she and Gerber had better luck together. In the pitch meeting for Howard, they'd also brought along their idea for another comic, about a character named James-Michael-"a real twelve-year-old," as he put it, "a human being poised on the edge of puberty, facing all the enormous (and enormous seeming) problems adolescence would bring." Not, in other words, another stupid kid sidekick.

Of course, it wasn't quite vérité-in the first issue, James-Michael's parents die in a horrible auto accident and are revealed to be robots. James-Michael, hyperintelligent and nearly autistic in his cold manner, is adopted by a kind nurse and her hip roommate, who live in the Hell's Kitchen section of Man-hattan, and he's haunted by dreams of a mute, caped alien who shoots lasers from his palms and leaves a trail of destruction that's still there when James-Michael awakes. But what would they call it?

"Omega the Unknown!" Lee shot back. He put both titles on the schedule.