Those People

The Allies wanted ANSWERS -- 

"How had arguably one of 

the most technologically-advanced 

and civilised nation in Europe 

descended into The Pit of HELL?

Who WERE These Men?

Were They MADMEN...?

Worst of all, if it could happen over there,

could it happen here...?

The Psychiatrists who studied The Prisoners at The Nuremberg Trials wrote their collective portrait :

"Their collective I.Q. is 140; 

They have a rigid view of the World - 

Black and White, without Grey.

They were born-Followers, who needed someone 

to tell them What to Think;

Though they had unusual personalities among them, 

they were NOT Insane."

The Answers The Allies recieved were NOT The Answers they were prepared to HEAR;

"NO, They were NOT Madmen; and, YES, it COULD Happen Here."

The Psychiatrists noted that there were plenty of similar individuals in The United States, 

who would GLADLY step over 

half the bodies 

of their fellow countrymen, 

to Control the remainder.

Capt. Gustav Gilbert : 

“A rat catcher catching rats". 

Is that the kind of thinking it takes to carry out state sanctioned mass murder? 

Not just blind obedience but also 

a belief that your victims 

are not human? 


Reichsmarschall Hermann Wilhelm Göring : 

Let me ask you this :

What was Hiroshima? 

Was it not your medical experiment? 

Would Americans have dropped bombs as easily on Germany as it did upon Japan killing as many civilians as possible? I think not. 

To an American sensibility, 

a Caucasian child is considerably 

more Human than 

a Japanese child. 


Capt. Gustav Gilbert : 

America was at war with Japan,

a country that had attacked it without provocation —

You murdered millions 

of your own citizens. 


Reichsmarschall Hermann 

Wilhelm Göring : 

And what about the American citizens of the Japanese race who were put into protective custody in your own concentration camps? 


Capt. Gustav Gilbert : 

That was Wrong. 


Reichsmarschall Hermann 

Wilhelm Göring : 

Then why was this not done to citizens 

of German or Italian descent? 


Capt. Gustav Gilbert : 

I said it was wrong. 


Reichsmarschall Hermann Wilhelm Göring : 

What about the negro officers in your own army? 

Are they not allowed to command troops in combat? 

Can they sit on the same buses as the whites? 

The segregation laws in your country 

and the anti Semitic laws in mine, 

are they not a difference of degree?

 

Let me tell you —

From the beginning of the century, 

through the first war, 

until the rise of Hitler, 

the freemasonry of the Jewish merchants 

consistently undermined 

the German economy and 

nationhood of the Fatherland —

That is WHY we made 

anti-Semitic laws and

 why you, my friend 

could never understand 

anti-Semitism, why? 

Because you are a Jew. 


“I am suggesting that 

a Set of Ideals 

was primarily responsible 

for the rise of Nazism.

I think those Ideals 

are extraordinarily false 

and terribly destructive—

but that is NOT how millions of intelligent, educated, even in many cases well-meaning Germans saw them. 

But why do I call them 

a ‘Set of Ideals’? 

Why not just say :

“The Nazis had some 

[very Bad & Wrong] Ideas—

of course they had some ideas with which to bewitch the masses —

but basically They just wanted Power 

and were effective at using 

those ideas to get Power”? 

Well, of course 

The Nazis wanted Power. 

What politician doesn’t 

want aPower? 

But if you are only out for power, 

think about how you go about getting it in a Democracy. 

The best way is to identify the established political parties, 

join one of the powerful ones, 

and work your way 

up the ranks to the top. 

Here is an analogy: 

In the United States, the two 

major parties are the Democratic 

and Republican parties. 

So if you are young and ambitious and you want a realistic chance at becoming a Senator or even President in your lifetime, 

you join one of those two parties. 

What you do not do 

is join a fringe party. 

What you do not do 

is start your own party—

say, the Midwestern Farmer’s Union Party, out in the middle of nowhere. 

The only reason you would start the Midwestern Farmer’s Union Party 

is that you are a True Believer 

in the ideals of Midwestern Farming 

and think you cannot 

achieve your ideals 

by joining the established parties. 

But that describes 

the Nazis exactly. 

They did not join 

the Social Democrats 

or any of the established 

political parties. 

They set up their own fringe party, initially based 

in the south of Germany 

and away from the 

centre of power in Berlin. 

They were true 

believers in a cause. 

They did not want power if it meant compromising their ideals by joining with an established party. 

They wanted Power—

but Power to achieve 

what they took to be 

high ideals. 

Loki :

Kneel before me. 

I said kneel! 

Is not this simpler? 

Is this not your natural state? 

It's the unspoken truth of Humanity, that you crave subjugation. 

The bright lure of Freedom diminishes your life's joy in a mad scramble for Power, for IDENTITY. 

You were made to be ruled. 

In the end, you will always kneel. 

German Elder :

Not to Men like you. 

Loki :

There are no Men Like Me. 

German Elder :

There are always men like you. 

Loki :

Look to your elder, people. 

Let him be an example. 

The Captain :

You know, the last time 

I was in Germany, 

and saw a man standing 

above everybody else, 

giving orders —

we ended up disagreeing. 

Frau Goering :

Good afternoon, Captain.

The prisoners aren't allowed visitors.

Frau Goering :

I am the wife of Reichsmarschall Göring.

This is His Daughter.

No exceptions, madam.

Frau Göring.

- My name is Captain Gilbert.

Frau Goering :

Hello.

Nice to meet you. Would you have a

moment to spend with me, to talk?

Frau Goering :

Yes.

- Very good.

- This is Edda.

Hello, Edda. 

I'm Captain Gilbert. 

Do you like chocolate?

It must have been very difficult

for you these last few months.

Especially with your little girl.

It could have been worse, I suppose.

Hitler could have survived.

You've obviously come to

terms with The Truth.

I wish your husband

could do the same.

But he persists in remaining

Loyal to Hitler's Memory.

Yes, I cannot understand it, either.

Such Loyalty to a man

who wanted us dead.

I'm sorry?

‘Hitler’ [Boorman, via the Hitler-Clone decoy double] 

ordered all of us to be shot.

Hermann, myself...

our precious child.

That is why we surrendered

to The Americans.

Why else would we have

done such a thing?

I went through my notes last night.

I've spent all these months trying

to find a way inside Their Minds.

Hoping to understand

How Those People

could commit such atrocities

against My People.

I believe there are a couple of

factors that explain a lot of it.

First, Germany is a country where

people do what they're told.

You obey your parents, teachers,

clergymen, superior officers.

You're raised from childhood

not to question Authority.

When Hitler comes to Power, 

he has an entire nation 

that believes it's 

perfectly natural to do 

whatever he says.

Second, propaganda.

For years, Germans have been

bombarded with ideas like:

"Jews are not real Human Beings," or

"They're a corruption of The Race."

When The Government

says it's permissible

to deny Jews their rights,

and then says it's imperative to

kill these inferior people,

they comply.

Even if they've been your

friends or neighbours.

Anything else?

I told you once that I was searching 

for The Nature of Evil.

I think I've come close 

to defining it :

A Lack of Empathy.

It's the one characteristic that

connects all the defendants —

A genuine incapacity to

feel with their fellow man.

Evil, I think, is 

The Absence of Empathy.