Simon Wiesenthal

"SIMON WIESENTHAL, why is he lying about Mengele? Present associations. WHO IS SIMON WIESENTHAL? 

PART I: Strange support and links going back to I.G. Farben, Waffen SS."



Arrest of Bekir Celenk in Turkey. 
Key link to STIBAM, AGCA. Controversies over Reagan's treatment. REAGAN, LICIO GELLI, MANFRED ROEDER, JOSEF MENGELE. 

1979, 1981 key years. 


The connections of the past years, the Vatican banking scandal, the drug links and gun running from Rome, Syria, West Germany to South American Nazis, Klaus Barbie and Josef Mengele, getting tight.

 SIMON WEISENTHAL, PART II. Poland from 1941 to April 1943. 

 


Originally broadcast July 29, 1985. part 3 of 4... 

THE MENGELE AFFAIR. 
The "experts" sent by U.S. Justice and Simon Wiesenthal. Brazil's murder of President Tancredo Neves, 
up-date. 
AGCA witness BEKIR CELENK, connection between the Vatican and current scandals, could be given "DEATH PENALTY" in Turkey.

 SIMON WIESENTHAL, PART III.

 Luck in 12 Concentration camps, favoritism with the GESTAPO SS.


Originally broadcast August 19, 1985. part 4 of 4... 

PART IV: Simon Wiesenthal, more than LUCKY. 
Chronology from 1945 to 1985. 

The LIES and the FASCIST CONNECTIONS to the "Nazi Hunter" while the Nazis multiply and go free. 

'I've had a lot of trouble with Simon Wiesenthal recently and I remember that 3 or 4 years ago I had the unnerving experience of sitting in my rental car after I had been speaking in London, not London England but London Ontario, which is about 200 miles west of Toronto and I had driven back to Toronto that night, the speaking was very exhausting and I got back in Toronto at half past two on this November morning, and as I drove up [uninintelligible] Street in Toronto, which is the main artery of Toronto, I pulled up at the traffic lights and glaring at me from the car next to me in the traffic lights was Simon Wiesenthal himself, his face hideously contorted by rage. I got a real shock because he looked into me through my driver's window and there was Mr Wiesenthal, this hideous, leering, evil face glaring at me, then I realised it wasn't Simon Wiesenthal, it was a Halloween mask. [Applause]. Now those of you who have seen Mr Wiesenthal will know what I'm talking about. Mrs Wiesenthal who has seen Mr Wiesenthal many times of course, and she says to him at Halloween "Simon please keep the mask on, you look so much nicer with it on".' [P's Clarendon Club speech at Bow Town Hall, 29 May 1992: K4, Tab. 4, p. 17]

Wiesenthal Worked for Israeli Spy Agency, Book Alleges

Simon Wiesenthal walks over a Jewish cemetery in 1992 in Eisenstadt, Austria, that has been vandalized by right-wing extremists.

JERUSALEM — Simon Wiesenthal, a Holocaust survivor who gained worldwide fame for decades as a one-man Nazi-hunting operation, was in fact frequently on the payroll of the Mossad, Israel’s spy agency, a new biography asserts.

The assertion, based on numerous documents and interviews with three people said to be Mr. Wiesenthal’s Mossad handlers, not only punctures a widely held belief about how he operated; it also suggests a need to re-evaluate the standard view that the Israeli government took no interest in tracking down Nazis until the 1960 capture in Argentina of Adolf Eichmann, and little thereafter.

Mr. Wiesenthal died in 2005 at the age of 96 in his Vienna home.

“This requires us to adjust in some small way our view of history,” said Tom Segev, the author of the new book, “Simon Wiesenthal: The Life and Legends,”which is being published by Doubleday this week in the United States and simultaneously in six other countries.

Mr. Segev, who is Israeli and a columnist for the newspaper Haaretz here, is the author of half a dozen other books, mostly about Israeli history. In a telephone interview, he said he had been given unfettered access to Mr. Wiesenthal’s papers — some 300,000 of them, previously closed to the public — by Mr. Wiesenthal’s daughter, Paulinka Kreisberg.

Simon Wiesenthal in 1999. Credit Heinz-Peter Bader/Reuters 

While reading through Mr. Wiesenthal’s correspondence, Mr. Segev came across names of people he did not recognize and discovered that they were Mossad agents and handlers. He interviewed three of them and named two in the book.

Mr. Segev said that Mr. Wiesenthal was first employed by the political department of the Israeli Foreign Ministry, a forerunner to the Mossad, and then by the agency itself. It financed his first office in Vienna in 1960, paid him a monthly salary and provided him with an Israeli passport, the biography says. Mr. Wiesenthal’s code name was Theocrat.

His main task was to help locate Nazi criminals, including Eichmann, one of the architects of the Final Solution, and especially to watch out for neo-Nazis and provide information on the activities of former Nazis in Arab countries, the book says.

It also says that Mr. Wiesenthal was part of a largely unknown earlier attempt to trap Eichmann in Austria in the last days of 1948. According to the book, an Israeli agent who was helping Mr. Wiesenthal probably caused the operation to fail when he regaled fellow New Year’s drinkers in local bars with stories of Israel’s war of independence. Word spread that an Israeli was present and Eichmann’s planned visit to his wife and child was abruptly called off, the book says.

The operation was started by Asher Ben Natan, later Israel’s first ambassador to Germany, who spoke about it with Mr. Segev. The operational report, newly declassified, is also cited. Mr. Segev said he passed his manuscript through the Israeli military censor, which is required of any work published here on security-related issues.

Mr. Wiesenthal’s role in the 1960 capture of Eichmann has been a matter of dispute. Isser Harel, the former Mossad head, now dead, claimed that the Nazi hunter deserved no credit.

But the book says that Mr. Wiesenthal, financed by the Israeli Embassy in Vienna, told the Mossad in 1953 that Eichmann was hiding in Argentina, leading ultimately to his capture by agency operatives. Eichmann’s televised trial in Israel was a milestone in modern Holocaust awareness. He was found guilty and hanged by Israel in 1962.

Mr. Wiesenthal, a complex and often controversial figure, opposed the execution, Mr. Segev shows by examining previously unknown correspondence. It was not moral objection to the death penalty but the belief that Eichmann had not yet told everything he knew and that his future testimony could be useful.

The biography provides new details on Mr. Wiesenthal’s often strained relations — ultimately mended — with Rabbi Marvin Hier, the founder and dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center, which is based in Los Angeles. The disputes, recorded in numerous letters from Mr. Wiesenthal, were mostly petty, regarding accusations that the center failed to inform or consult with him.

The book also shows that Mr. Wiesenthal came to the quiet and consistent aid of Kurt Waldheim, the former secretary general of the United Nations and president of Austria, when he was being accused by Jewish groups of having lied about his service in the German Army. The harshest suspicions of war crimes against Mr. Waldheim were never proved and Mr. Wiesenthal’s role was largely as a behind-the-scenes consultant to his fellow Austrian.

This is Mae Brussell, and this is the second half of broadcast 787, World Watchers. In case you missed the first part, bear with us, you can get a tape; they're available. If you write to me I'll tell you how to get them.

This is a very important subject because of an article in the newspaper, particularly Robert Novak, because he's more prominent than Rowland Evans.

In light of Reagan's life and the conservative policies, by having Fritz Kraemer continue in the National Security Council — until this point I knew he was of tremendous influence sharing offices with Daniel Graham of Star Wars and Fred Ikle, Deputy of the Defense Department — but here he is being "retained", which means he was there in the first place. And all of the Reagan policies have been identical to the policies of Adolf Hitler during World War Two. I always refer to the Grenada invasion as a blitzkreig, similar to the way Hitler took the smaller countries. And it was run by the same people that did the blitzkreig for Adolf Hitler.

Now to get back to Hitler's Kraemer: Sepp Dietrich, along with Otto Skorzeny and Fritz Kraemer, were taken as war prisoners. They were later released, thanks to the work by Senator Joe McCarthy. I'll give you some more details on their release in a few moments.

A new Senator (Joe McCarthy) who was stationed in the South Pacific was put into office by two very pro-Nazi Germans in Wisconsin. And as soon as he was in office he went to Europe and made sure that the defendants in the Dachau trial — because of the Malmédy massacre — would be released. And among them was Hitler's Fritz Kraemer. I referred to him as prisoner 33.

Adolf Hitler's Fritz Kraemer is in books about World War Two as a Dachau prisoner, and there is no other account — there is just one and [it's so full of] holes; only one account, so far, of anything he did in the Eastern Division or anywhere to become a general. He was a general and he was one of a very few war criminals — very few considering how many crimes were committed — but he doesn't appear anywhere noticeable in any battles in North Africa or in the eastern part of Europe that would earn him the title of General.

Hitler's Fritz Kraemer helped the United States Army historians after the war when he was a prisoner. And a Mr. Cole wrote about the assistance of the Germans in helping the Americans write the German side of the war. Fritz Kraemer helped the United States Army write the history about the area he was in.

Hitler's Fritz Kraemer disappeared from all Nazi history books after he was released from Dachau prison. There's only one picture of him as a prisoner, and nothing before, whereas all the others have a history before or after or since. A group of almost 70, I believe, were arrested. The only one who has no face in any history books is Hitler's Fritz Kraemer. Where did he go? He's not written up, and there's no record of him. I even wrote to Israel for information about Fritz Kraemer. They didn't have any. Hitler's Fritz Kraemer is seldom mentioned in any single context at all.

Kissinger's Kraemer, who worked with Hitler's Kraemer, is also never photographed; you never see his face. And one of the crimes of the Fritz Kraemer at the Battle of the Bulge was that as commanding officer he ordered all American prisoners to be shot right at sight, not to be kept alive.

We made an agreement before the end of the war how we would coordinate our military and intelligence with the German Army, and Allen Dulles was in Bern, Switzerland from 1943 making deals directly with the top Nazis. So it seems that they would want our good graces, or be kind, and keep our prisoners alive. But I believe the reason the orders came from Kraemer — to kill all persons who saw them — was that nobody would recognize him if a situation, such as today, appeared.

Henry Kissinger's Kraemer planned the Vietnam War. He was over Westmoreland, and made strategic decisions that are now part of our history. Henry Kissinger's mentor is never seen with [Kissinger]; there isn't a single photograph of Henry Kissinger next to Fritz Kraemer, although he writes about him in his autobiography, and he is written about in other books about Henry Kissinger.

So why is Hitler's Fritz Kraemer so scarce if he was so important to Hitler? And why is Henry Kissinger's Kraemer so scarce if he was so influential in his life? And of course the question is: Are they the same person? It's time to get them photographed.

I wrote to Peter Rodino a long time ago, because it was his committee that was supposed to look into Nazi war criminals who came into this country. And Reinhard Gehlen was not considered a criminal. He wasn't charged, or the charges were dropped. But [Hitler's Kraemer] has a number and a case record against him, so if it's the same one it would be interesting to know.

One of their partners, Otto Skorzeny, set up the terrorist teams after the war and worked with all of the top Nazis, particularly in the Middle East, in Libya, in Egypt, in North Africa, and in the P.L.O, and all the Palestinian groups and Muslims. Otto Skorzeny was a key man to all of this, and he worked with our C.I.A. after the war. I wrote about him in my article in Rebel on the Nazi connections to the Kennedy assassination.

Some of the books I have as references I will send out next week with the tapes. As I say, some of you have this sheet and some of you don't. Washington Post, March 3, 1975, the Nick Thimmesch article "The Iron Mentor of the Pentagon."

There's another book: "Henry Kissinger," Ralph Blumfield's book, Signet book in 1974 — the importance of Henry Kissinger and the Fritz Kraemer relationship.

"Hitler's Bodyguards," a Ballentine book. (By Alan Wykes.) Book #39, published in 1974. There's a picture of Nazi war criminal Fritz Kraemer.

"Skorzeny," the book on Otto Skorzeny by Charles Whiting. War leader book #11.

David Hannah, December 1975, wrote "Kissinger and his Rise" and he suggests a strong relationship between Kissinger and Kraemer.

"Hitler's Last Gamble" by Jacques Nobecourt, Shocken Books, 1967, goes into the importance of Fritz Kraemer.

"The Damned Engineers" by Janice Holt Giles, 1970. (Houghton Mifflin Co.)

"The Adventurers of a Bystander" by Peter Drucker, the man who invented Henry Kissinger, writes about Fritz Kraemer: pages 141 to 157.

And "The Last Days of Patton" by Ladislas Farago, McGraw Hill published that in 1981. They say that Fritz Kraemer was with Patton, and that he was a U.S. Army General. Now Hitler's Fritz Kraemer was a general, ours was a lieutenant. And if they're the same they've got the military mixed up, because he was a general for Hitler, and Patton might have believed, or the person writing about him might have believed, that the other one was a general, too. Although Ladislas Farago has done a lot on the Battle of the Bulge in this time period and should know better; he should know the difference between a lieutenant and a general.

There was some very important dates in the lives of these men that I talk about all of the time, and they somewhat overlap. They're important because of the relationship that develops into Ronald Reagan and how he ends up with six years with Fritz Kraemer and Sven Kraemer at the National Security Council. These dates are particular dates about Kissinger and Kraemer. Then I'm going into the Reagan dates.

In 1930 Dr. Hermann Friedrich Erben, a member of Hitler's Gestapo, was naturalized in San Francisco. In 1933, three years later, he recruited Errol Flynn into the Gestapo while he was at Warner Brothers in Hollywood.

In 1937, four years later, Peter Drucker from Vienna and Frankfurt, Germany came to the United States.

And in 1937 Ronald Reagan was brought to Hollywood from Christian College in Illinois by Music Corporation of America.

In 1938, one year later, Henry Kissinger came to the United States from Germany also, as did Erben, Drucker, and then Kissinger. And he soon went into U.S. Military Intelligence.

In 1939 Fritz Gustav Anton Kraemer came from Germany and Italy, brought here by Peter Drucker — the man behind these multi-national corporations. He came to the United States and went into Army Intelligence in 1939.

In 1940 Errol Flynn at Warner Brothers was co-starring with Ronald Reagan at Warner Brothers. And Reagan, during the war, was soon to be making movies about Pneumunde, where the space rocket scientists were working, who were later brought to the United States.

Flynn and Reagan co-starred in two movies together, in 1940 and in 1942. "Desperate Journey" was the other movie they did together.

The next year, in 1943, Fritz Kraemer and Henry Kissinger — both from Germany, both in Army Intelligence — make their connection in Louisiana. And one year later, in 1944, Fritz Kraemer and Henry Kissinger are in Germany located in December at the Battle of the Bulge: the battle where Otto Skorzeny and Hitler's Fritz Kraemer and Sepp Dietrich and the other powerful Germans would meet them in some form or other in that identical location.

Otto Skorzeny was not only great on terrorism, but he was assigned by Hitler for two years to set up a team that would emulate Americans. And according to the laws of war — believe it or not, there are some — you're not supposed to wear the uniform of the other side. Otto Skorzeny trained his people to smoke like Americans (hold a cigarette a certain way), talk like Americans, use English words, and he got a hold of American trucks and tanks and uniforms so he could infiltrate where the Americans were and kill them. The Americans thought they were working with France, but when some of thm died on the battlefield, they took off the American uniform and found German uniforms underneath. They had been deceived by Skorzeny. So he had access to American matériel, and these people met at the Battle of the Bulge in some way.

In 1945 Fritz Kraemer and Henry Kissinger, and also the other Fritz Kraemer from Germany, allegedly meet at Oberammergau. One is Hitler's top General taken prisoner. The other is with Henry Kissinger staying at a castle with special treatment, put there by John J. McCloy, President of Chase Manhattan Bank, later representing the Rockefeller interests, an attorney for I.G. Farben, and so forth. And allegedly the Kraemer from Frankfurt, Germany, Italy, and so forth, is over there also.

So it's very coincidental that there were two Fritz Kraemers and one Kissinger in the same location. One a German who wears an American uniform who recruits Kissinger, and the other a German who Hitler used toward the end of the war.

In 1945 Klaus Barbie and other top Nazi war criminals were in with them. And General Patton worked with these people.

In 1948 Fritz Kraemer, the one that put Henry Kissinger into Harvard after being in Germany, joins the Pentagon and takes over as Plans Officer is 1948.

Thirty-two years of military coups we've seen in this country. I won't run them down again, but two years later John J. McCloy released all the top war criminals to start their banking and organizing over again: Hjalmar Schacht, Hermann Abs, people from I.G. Farben, and the head of the Deutsche Bank. Very prominent people, like Herman Abs, went on to the Vatican to help the Pope at the time of the Banco Ambrosiano scandal that involved Licio Gelli and Francesco Pazienza, who are walking around.

Herman Abs of the Deutsche Bank and other top war criminals were released from prison by John J. McCloy, who was working for Chase Manhattan and for I.G. Farben, and a lawyer for the Chase Manhattan Bank and for the Rockefellers.

In 1964 McCloy, who put Henry Kissinger in Harvard, was assigned by Allen Dulles to be a member of the Warren Commission, and they were to cover up the murder of John Kennedy. And McCloy was in charge of the Soviet Union branch of the contacts of Lee Harvey Oswald.

In 1984 Henry Kissinger is on the Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board to Ronald Reagan. Kissinger sits on that, we find out, since 1980 through 1986. And he seems to be there tighter than ever.

We have a Fritz Kraemer sitting in the National Security [Council], and he's been there all of these years while Reagan was in office. I'm sure he was sitting there when Zbigniew Brzezinski was running N.S.C. for Jimmy Carter but these scandals didn't come out and therefore their names didn't come out.

The chronology of these people is very important. There are other dates I want to give to you. I don't expect you to remember them all, but you can get the idea of this matter.

Dr. Hermann Friedrich Erben, who recruited [Reagan's acting] co-partner Errol Flynn into the Gestapo, came to the United States in 1930. [Erben] joined the Gestapo in Germany in 1922 when it was first formed. Then he went to San Francisco and he joined the team in Hollywood, particularly. He recruited them and worked with them and started traveling. In the United States he made himself an American citizen, then went back to Germany. And he still has two strong Nazi sons who I understand work in Spain. Charles Higham has done a lot of work on Dr. Erben. He's the one who surfaced and brought this man out when he was studying the Nazi connections of Errol Flynn.

In 1933 Walter Duisberg, the son of Carl Duisberg who founded I.G. Farben, became a United States citizen and set up headquarters in New Jersey. Errol Flynn was working for Dr. Erben at the time.

Peter Drucker came over here, and the same year that Drucker came from Frankfurt and Vienna, Ronald Reagan was brought by Music Corporation of America and was recruited from a fundamentalist Christian College in Eureka of three hundred students.

When Henry Kissinger came from Germany in 1938, it was the same year that Joseph Mengele, the Dr. from Auschwitz, came to the United States [and was granted] citizenship, just had Dr. Erben had done in 1930, eight years earlier, before he recruited [people] — the most famous of course is Errol Flynn.

And in 1939, the year after Kissinger came to this country, and the year after Mengele was naturalized in New York, Fritz Kraemer came to the country. He came from Hitler's Germany and Mussolini's Italy. He was brought to the United States by Peter Drucker who's down at Claremont, California, who writes a lot of books on the huge multi-national corporations. He was put right into U.S. Intelligence.

At the same time he was put into intelligence, (Adolf) Carl Weidenbach, from Germany and from Franco's Spain, became a U.S. Intelligence agent for General Douglas MacArthur. He attended the Kreigs (?) Academy in Germany, which was Adolf Hitler's war school, and was put out in the Pacific in the Philippines with Douglas MacArthur. He was instrumental in releasing the Japanese war criminals, among them, the likes of Ryoichi Sasakawa and the top Japanese that were doing torturing and experiments on Americans and Chinese and other people. He changed his name to Charles Willoughby to make it more English. It was [originally] Charles (Adolf) Weidenbach.

As I said before, in 1940 Sante Fe Trail was being made at Warner Brothers with Flynn and Reagan. "Desperate Journey" was being made by Errol Flynn and Ronald Reagan in that time period.

In 1943, one year after they were co-starring in a movie, Fritz Kraemer goes into his U.S. Intelligence uniform. He's been in this country four years. He goes into U.S. Intelligence, and Henry Kissinger is also now in U.S. Intelligence. Both from Germany, Kissinger recruited by Kraemer.

In 1944, one year after Kraemer and Kissinger meet, is when Otto Skorzeny started training 400 Nazi Werewolf recruits for the Fourth Reich.

By May 1943, the powers that be in Germany and the United States knew that Hitler couldn't win the war against Russia. Skorzeny was instrumental in setting up 400 future Nazi Werewolfs that they would use after the war.

And in 1944, Kraemer, Kissinger, and Skorzeny were in that same battle scene in the Bulge stalling the war until Martin Bormann's treasures and money could be taken out of there.

Now 1948, when Kraemer becomes Plans Officer for the Pentagon, we soon have the confrontation with North and South Korea. And in 1950, with the excuse of North Korea being invaded by communists from above, this country (USA) announced that they would bring in Germans, including Otto von Bolschwing, whose name appears in the organization he set up later in 1986 with General Secord, Helene von Damm, and Mr. Albert Hakim connections.

Otto Skorzeny, in 1949, went to Argentina where he was with Eva and Juan Peron and the top Nazis and had access to the Bormann funds to rebuild the Nazi empire.

1950, as the Cold War went on, brought in Otto von Bolschwing. In his likes, John J. McCloy released the top Nazi war criminals.

In 1954 Reverend Sun Myung Moon connects with Ryoichi Sasakawa and begins the World Organization for media persons, for scientists, and for papers like the Washington Times. And Moon becomes a large instrumental figure with the World Anti-Communist League and with the right wing network throughout the world.

In 1953 Otto Albrecht von Bolschwing, from the SS Gestapo, moves to California. And in 1959, six years later, his corporation, T.C.I. (that becomes Stanford Technology), has as his secretary and translator Helene von Damm. [She becomes] the secretary to Ronald Reagan when he becomes governor in 1966 to 1974; von Damm makes the appointments for him. And then when he goes to Washington in 1980, and again in 1984 (before she becomes Ambassador to Vienna), Helene von Damm from the T.C.I. Corporation (that became Stanford Technology) has made the appointments for the Reagan administration.

[There's] a book called "Nazi War Criminals in America: the Basic Handbook." It's written by Charles Allen, the well known Nazi hunter. And the book is important for lots of reasons. I just want to share one with you because of the close relationship with Klaus Barbie to Fritz Kraemer and Henry Kissinger and the likes. Joseph Mengele was recognized and identified as being in cocaine traffic with Barbie in 1979, through a lot of papers in the CIA that were given to Senator D'Amato and Senator Arlen Specter (who was on the Warren Commission). The importance of Mengele, Barbie, and Fritz Kraemer, and with Fritz Kraemer sitting in NSC these past six years, and certainly to reshape them for the next two years, or forever, in this palace coup.

I just want to share one page of Allen's book on Nazi war criminals. He talks about the Mengele case and the U.S. involvement, and he tells how after the war Mengele spent time as an intern patient in a British hospital in occupied Germany. He lived with his family in Gunzburg, Germany, and the family is wealthy. It's a multi-national farm equipment company. And when people accused Mengele of doing the tortures at Auschwitz from about 1949 on, he went out of sight and he got a false name and passport under Gregori (?), he went to Franco's Spain, Skorzeny's headquarters, and Hans Ulrich Rudel. Then to Argentina. And Mr. Allen goes on to say that he practiced medicine in Buenos Aires. And with stories about Mengele two years ago, or one year ago, there were a lot more details given about Joseph Mengele.

This book came out in 1985, just before Mengele was allegedly discovered in a coffin in Sao Paulo — another crock of lies. But, in talking about Mengele, he says that there are a lot of people [who are self-appointed] investigators — he uses the derisive; he puts down people who are looking for Nazi war criminals outside of himself. He says for exploitation on sensationalism there's a lot of this going on. But he cites a 1966 report on U.S. Nazis, and he said a copy of a confidential FBI report on Mengele dated December 8, 1966 carries the allegations — and this is the FBI — that Joseph Mengele was in Arizona using the name Harold Endenon (?). And this has been circulated among self-described Nazi-hunters in the U.S.

That author of "Basic Handbook," and that's Charles Allen himself, was once asked to join a west coast radio program to expose this latest development. The invitation was declined.

Mae Brussell was the lady who invited him to join that west coast radio program to expose the connection of these people. And why did he decline it? He didn't decline it because the evidence wasn't true, he just declined it. He said he was asked to join a program and he declined it. And he goes on in this chapter of his book, page 71, to say the FBI report carries a note that the files in the L.A. office reflect that a Joseph Mengele was a subject of a special agent, the report dated February 9, 1944 in New York, that he was a subject of denaturalization precedings. Apparently because his name was on a Nazi party list. And they ruled out the fact that he had been naturalized in the United States. There was a membership number of the Nazi Party. He entered the United States August 31, 1932. Born in Munich, Germany. And it has his address at one time in the Bronx of New York. And they threw out the fact that this particular person had been a naturalized American citizen like Dr. Erben, who was in fact an American citizen.

The reason this report came out — and I sent it to him and members of Congress — was because a listener to World Watchers in Sacramento — my program used to be on every week [in Sacramento] for about four years — was down in Honduras with his uncle and sat in the presence of Joseph Mengele in Honduras! And he asked his Uncle how come this guy's still floating around? His uncle had fled Oakland. [He said Mengele] was suspected of being a Nazi war criminal at the shipyards during World War Two, and because Mengele is an American citizen.

So using the new Freedom of Information Act this fellow sent for it and found the information on the naturalized papers. And then the "experts" come in, like Charles Allen, and say, "I decline to talk about this publicly."

I went down to talk to the General Accounting Office, and I wanted to talk about a problem that I've had all these years trying to find Fritz Kraemer. And he's written up in books, as I say: there's a Kraemer with a war record, there's a Kraemer running our government, there's a Kraemer with Fred Ikle, and there's a Kraemer [who is] the mentor of Alexander Haig and Kissinger, who are probably the two most powerful men up front in our country. And I can get no satisfaction from other persons. And I'm not going to give you a reason, you have do draw your own conclusions about it.

I have a copy of a letter I wrote to Bette Klarsfeld about this problem. I sent it to her New York office and I sent it to her in France. I never got an answer. Beatte Klarsfeld is the woman who takes the credit — rightfully so I suppose — of having Klaus Barbie taken from Bolivia to France when he is to stand trial. But that was January 1983. It's been three years now and I don't even see him going to a trial. He may or he may not, but he's been sitting in France for three years.

A listener to World Watchers in San Francisco, Pat Carey, went to where Beatte Klarsfeld was speaking several weeks ago, and some of you listeners heard her in San Jose. And this friend (Pat) asked her about Fritz Kraemer and Mae Brussell's need to have help in confirming or denying that our Pentagon has been run by Hitler's top General. And Beatte Klarsfeld answered this way: she said, "He isn't of influence anymore." Which meant to Pat, a long friend, that she knew where he was but it didn't matter. And I read every word of that small Evans and Novak column to show you that it matters that they account to no one; they account not to the Congress; they're more powerful than the State Department; he has the power to go right to the President; no more basement doors. It matters. And it matters because the people around him are in charge of the Central American policies as well as a lot of other policies.

John Stockwell was here about a month ago. He's written a book on the CIA. He was Station Chief in Angola. He lectured at the Monterey Institute of International Studies. John McCone is one of the directors and probably the Dean of this whole group at the Monterey Institute. [McCone] was CIA Director when John Kennedy was killed, and they resurrected Allen Dulles to be on the Warren Commission under his direction. And he was CIA Director when Nixon ordered the destabilization of Chile and the murder of Salvador Allende, which involves the very people that are in the Contragate/Reagangate [scandal] right now. Tickets for [Stockwell's] lecture at the Monterey Institute were free to students; They subsidized the lecture for students to hear Stockwell talk about the CIA.

Pat Carey came down from San Francisco and started to ask Stockwell about helping find Fritz Kraemer; that Mae Brussell is working on this matter. And then I asked him about it. They took questions from the audience and I said, "Will you help me locate him because I think it matters, given the tone of our policies and what is happening in Central America?" He was talking about Nicaragua. It would matter if Hitler's top General was running it or not. And he said to me that it wouldn't make any difference because Kraemer is not important anymore; he's not on the scene so it's not pertinent to what he was lecturing about.

Stockwell goes all over the country talking about the terrible things in Nicaragua and the terrible CIA. And my objection to these people is that CIA is the new Jew or the new black; the new minority. Or it always has been that you can talk about them and not the National Security Agency; not the National Security Council; you can't talk about Navy Intelligence; you can't talk about the Defense Agency. The book "Puzzle Palace" is the closest to the National Security Agency there is. But the NSC and the DIA and the Navy are untouchable no matter what administrations come and go.

Stockwell's answer was that it's not important to Central America, or Nicaragua particularly, who Fritz Kraemer is. I responded that Henry Kissinger was given that territory by Ronald Reagan, so therefore if this is his mentor who's behind him of course it matters what kind of policies we have. And Stockwell passed that off as not being important; as did Beatte Klarsfeld; as did Charles Allen.

 Holocaust Survivor Miklos Gruner claims that Elie Wiesel does not have an Auschwitz Tattoo. Incredibly, there apparently is no existing image of Elie Wiesel's alleged tattoo. This is the only known footage of Wiesel with both sleeves rolled up, and no tattoo is visible anywhere on the left arm, which is where Wiesel claims he still has this tattoo.

I wrote to Eli Weisel, who just got the Nobel Prize, and asked him to help me find Fritz Kraemer. He told me to write to Israel where they keep a record of war criminals. There was no Fritz Kraemer listed there.

And Simon Weisenthal wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole; Fritz Kraemer isn't important to him. I sent him letters and details when the President was going to Bitburg. And Rabbi Cooper and Rabbi Hier at the Weisenthal Center in Los Angeles told me it didn't matter.

You can be sure I'll be following this up for weeks or years to come now that the name has surfaced. And the important position he has proves all along that I was correct about those Prussians in the White House.

This is Mae Brussell, and I'll be back with more on Reagangate, Contragate, and Fritz Kraemer from the National Security Council; Next week we will continue along these lines.