Mormonism And Mitt -- What We Can Expect : Polygamy, Theocracy and Subversion.

Tarpley to McClendon Group; National Press Club: 

"Mormonism And Mitt -- ...

“Joseph Smith was 

An IMPOSTER — 

that's not just me, that's 

The State of New York in a 

Guilty verdict on Joseph Smith, that

He's An Impostor and a disorderly…. he's 

Guilty of Disorderly Conduct; but it's 

The Multiple Personalities —

In other words he's got a calculating 

Businessman Personality 

and then he's got 

The Prophetic Personality 

and He's got some ironic 

inner-distance on himself; 

in other words he says, 

you read these things, 

some good quotes in 

here, he says —

He sells The People a whole bill of goods, 

and then he turns to somebody, and he says, 

“And of course, 

You've got to know 

that I'm Honest, because 

I'm A Prophet, am I not?” 

Q. : Is that at not merely 

Narcissistic Personality Disorder…?

“Yeah it’s, ALL that, it's narcissism, 

but a personality -- it's 

so extreme that you can’t…. 

and here's what it leads to : 

Multiple Personalities, 

Multiple Wives 

and Multiple GODS —

and I would say this is 

A World of Schizophrenia; in other words, 

I think Schizophrenia is BUILT INTO this 

so-called religion, and multiple planets —

And when when he says 

“Multiple Planets” 

what he REALLY means 

is PARALLEL UNIVERSES 

‘cuz he's got Parallel Universes, each 

one being ruled over by A God —

Q. : I was going to ask you -- 

since we're talking 

about multiple personalities 

and I know that one of the ways t

hat these personalities are created 

is through sexual abuse 

of young children; 

Do you believe that Joseph Smith 

was sexually abused as young child 

because that is is something, 

if you read about um these 

multiple personalities, 

How That Happens --

and if you think about 

Mormonism, and 

the young Brides that 

they take you know and it's 

The Older Man with 

The Child Bride — 

Do you think this might 

have happened to HIM ?

“Well, the thing about 

Joseph Smith, I — 

that's a very interesting….. 

I hadn't thought… 

quite thought about it 

in THOSE TERMS, 

but that uh —  

In His Family, he had 

OLDER BROTHERS and 

ONE of them BEAT 

HIM UP all the time 

and PERSECUTED 

him like mad, uh —

And when you look at at some of the stories, which I can't really go into in detail, 

but you look at The Book of Mormon, 

there's a whole lot of stuff about 

‘BROTHER killing BROTHER —’ 

and this seems to be one of the

big things going on 

for Joseph Smith —

The other thing about it is 

Joseph Smith's Mother 

is An Antinomian —

and this is this uh area it's

called the burnover area Western New York and this is twice burned because

these people the people that he's starting with to recruit they were burned in the Great Awakening of the

1740s by Jonathan Edwards right sinners in the hands of the Angry God which

extreme Calvinism depravity predestination so they're burned once

and then they're burned Again by the great Revival of the 1820s so they are

bis they're the the biscuit the twice cooked area uh and that's where he

that's where he uh he he comes up with these people so let's just talk a little bit about um about this right um my

starting point oh wait a minute I got to finish on polygamy so the Mormons from 1830 to

1852 practice polygamy and deny it indignantly what how dare you we'd never

do that that's de prayed and Joseph Smith dies

lying and even there even scenes where he threatens people he says if you don't if you don't sign a statement saying

that I'm not a polygamist I'm going to kill you I'll make cat catfish bait out of you was one of his favorite uh

Expressions then from 1852 to 1890 polygamy is proclaimed and

practiced and come to Salt Lake City by now they're in Salt Lake City Joseph Smith has been killed Brigham Young

leads them to to Salt Lake City and Brigham is different see Joseph Smith uh

is on record saying every time I see a pretty woman I pray for grace cuz I'm

tempted well he indulged in his Temptations Brigham Young is more about

power and his basic calculation is if I can get these men into polygamous

marriages I can keep them here right there's no way because they can't leave

there's no place in North America where you could be polygamous so once you're polygamous and you've got this family

you got to stay here with me CU nobody else will ever take you so that goes on from 1852 to

1890 now there are attempts which I go through I won't go through all the details the moral act uh the Poland act

uh Supreme Court decisions on and on by 1890 it's clear to the Mormons they will

never get into the Union if they stay polygamous and they will be expropriated

it's like Rico there's a law that says if you're a society for the promotion of polygamy you will be

expropriated so at that point the the prophet has a revelation uh and you know a couple of

weeks before they're going to get all their property seized he said oh God told me that we should obey the law of

the land and he and he does so from from 1852 to 18 1890 it's underground but

they're still having polygamous marriages I would say the big thing is from 1830 to 1852 polygamy is for the Mormon Elite

Joseph Smith and let me mention already parley P Pratt parley P Pratt is the

ancestor of Romney and this is like um Christ and St Paul or something like

this right parley Pratt is the guy who recruited more Mormons than any body

else during this time so uh they're they're in command uh at that time then

from from 1852 to 1890 they practice it and Proclaim it and indeed they attract

a lot of people there are a lot of farmers who go to South Utah they get five or six wives those become the field

hands the husband is the overseer and you have essentially slavery on the

southern model but now with women in in the Great Basin then from 18 1990 on it

goes back to being not for the elite uh not not for the masses but for the elite

the last first president of the Mormon Church who was polygamist died in

1945

— and then The Question that already came up, “DOES Romney have multiple wives?”

I believe he certainly DOES in the sense of women who are sealed to him 

for The Celestial Harem ‘cuz that’s IN The Doctrine —

The Doctrine has CHANGED, saying “On Irth, Obey The Law of The Land, 

but when you get Your Planet, you GOT to have Your Harem, so you got to 

get sealed and THAT means you've got to get these women to PLEDGE 

themselves to you, right? And that means NOT to their husbands —

Their poor husband is going to be castrated and A Servant in the in celestial realm;

uh and this is of course this is conducted um with a great deal of DUPLICITY—  

So you can see prevarication, lying, deception enter the  sketch….

 And it's ALWAYS The ABSOLUTE Truth at ANY point in The Process, 

WHATEVER They're saying TODAY is God's Absolute Truth —“

polygamy theocracy and subversion I especially recommend the part on polygamy uh which tends to be the raciest part but also quite shocking um this is the political reality that we have today so uh here's this book 280 Pages it essentially it's it's not really based on primary sources but it will summarize the relevant secondary ones and sift through them so instead of having to read 25 books on the subject you can get it all right here it is available from Progressive press of California Progressive press of California I urge you to go there otherwise Amazon skims off a tremendous amount of the uh proceeds and uh you can get an ebook version for as little as $6 through Progressive press of California so I urge people to take advantage of that and I'm rather proud of the uh paper book it may not fulfill everybody's criteria but I I find this rather handsome because here we have a uh suitably uh what can we say Franken steinan uh portrait of the uh of the candidate I call him the collab candidate collab and if you don't know what collab is well that's where the gods live of course and that's where your fate is decided in the doth the cab candidate new from cab and of course the the temple here the main Mormon temple in Salt Lake City the Mormon Mecca now so that's that's that are we I guess we're still setting up I'm going to have to proceed anyway the best sorry as John mentioned I was here in January of 2008 to talk about Obama and I was here to try to show the Dark Side of Obama which I think has come come true uh unfortunately in the way that I said it would but what I'm interested here is the method when presidential candidates run for office they lie they lie way so or they or they don't even lie they just um they take evasive action so what do you do what's a voter to do what's a citizen to do and I suggested in the case of Obama you look at the people around him you look at his advisors you look at his friends Bernardine Dorne Bill SS my work there was uh helped by the fact that I had been a political enemy of ss and dor in SDS at Cornell University back in the late 1960s you look above all at the guy's wife Michelle this tells much and then you look at you look at other other factors you look at the foundations that he worked for and things of this sort now all I've done here really is to apply this to Romney it's a little bit different though with Obama it was no positions on most issues but hope and change the cloud the Messianic utopian promise right of course now we're in the middle of The Hangover right the caten Yama of Hope and change right it's it's a bitter pill and of course that he should have known that but that was it hope and change now with with Romney there are numerous detailed positions and they're always changing right this is the candidate of etes sketch of flip-flops of mendacity of evasion ramesia yeah there is romnesia right and the thing with Romney is it's breathtaking he's a skilled liar I've never seen so but somebody able to lie at this rate anyway the the point here is since he lies so much what can we do the one thing he keeps saying the one thing that hasn't changed is I love my faith it's the faith of my fathers I'd rather lose than give up my faith and on and on and we can look the people around him Mike levit transition team director top Mormon Spencer zwick uh is the son son of one of the Quorum of the 12 the ruling Council the Apostles of Mormonism top guy in the campaign we look at Bane Capital it's essentially a satellite of the Mormon or LDS Latter-Day Saints uh church so the problem now is with Romney it's not just you know 50 or 60 years of Bernardine Dorne and Bill SS and some foundations now it's 100 85 years or so of Mormon Dom to see what the tradition is how else would you do it so that's what I had to do as well as I could um and this is now uh the result so here's I'll give you the general finding and I'll try to then to show you how this is U this is relevant the the stuff about lying is simply that Mormonism is an antinomian Faith uh it believes that if you're a saint and these are the last days we're in the latter days right end of the world end time then you can do whatever you want you can do whatever whatever you like um this is connected uh you find something in Christianity which Mormonism is not you find something similar in the original Quakers of the 17th century that if the Inner Light tells you to do something then you have extra scriptural re Revelation you you can do whatever you want in the Judaism uh the these false false Messiah sabot zi in the 1660s yakob franka later on in the mid 1700s they say the same thing they say I'm the Messiah do what you want and here it is in Mormonism so that's a word that I need to have antinomianism and as we're going to see Romney is closely linked to the neocons the regime that's now knocking on the door is a regime where the neocons run the foreign policy and that's of course John Bolton that's um oh my God the entire list Dan Senor Kagan uh dob zakim bunch of them they are nans they believe in the concept of the nitian Superman for whom everything is allowed and of course they also are theoreticians of lying as we saw saw in the case of ramney it's similar that the Mormon Saint is free to lie is encouraged to lie just like a neocon just like a nitian and for him everything is allowed and his goal is to become a God the end point of Mormonism is that you the successful Mormon male male sorry male if you're a successful Mormon male you will take over a planet not this one this one is taken so your time here is like Romney as governor of Massachusetts it's a stepping stone but you're going to be headed for a planet where you will get a Celestial harm that you had to accumulate while you were here they had to be sealed to you the women have got to be signed over to you with a special ceremony that's your Haram and that's how you're going to rule and woe to you if you don't have at least three wives because then you're you're going to be a servant you're going to be as soon as you arrive in heaven you're going to be castrated and you're going to be a servant to the ones who got the wives in this world so this is not such a good deal does r huh this we don't know but this is I think a very very reasonable question as we I'll try to say now the Romney campaign says I'm super patriotic I'm more American than the other guy but wait this religion is I'll try to show out of all the religions I've ever seen in the world has the biggest story of anti-American hatred and a narrative of persecution by the United States and it goes back to the fact that the Americans of the 1840s did not Bow Down and Worship Joseph Smith the founder as the prophet or Son of God but a mob killed him and this then led to what I think is the most shocking document that that that you can see in the middle of Mormonism which is the oath of Vengeance and that is to say until the late 1920s until the time of Romney's father George Romney who would have been swearing this for the first two or three decades of his life the Mormon liturgy the temple endowment as they call it right the order of the day for divine Services contained a special part that said I swear to exact Vengeance against the United States of America and the American people because they killed Joseph Smith and ham Smith and I promise to teach this to my my posterity down to the fourth generation I don't find that anywhere but you can find um you know a salafist an al- qist I don't know if they have anything quite that specific that they have to repeat every time go to church now this was phased out it's true in the late 1920s but still if George Romney swore it and swore to teach it then he had plenty of time to impart it to M to tag and tags generation and to tags kids now it's a very Elementary question do you want to put somebody in the White House who comes from such a tradition and I would have to say no you don't don't want to do that I think that would be fool hearty in the extreme now uh another one is Romney says I'm tough on terrorism Obama's not tough on terrorism Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi we'll talk about Benghazi well um if we look at the collected speeches of the presidents of the United States the first time an American president says the word terrorism well it's 1857 and it's President James Buchanan talking about the Mormons and he says a strange system of terrorism has taken over Utah territory and I'm sending the US Army to bust it up CU it's a theocracy now some people may be uncomfortable already right because oh attacking somebody for their religion well no not really my argument is that this is a Theocratic Freemason it's freemasonic it couldn't be anymore it's like the P2 Lodge right Leo jedy orani these people it's like the P2 Lodge but it's also Theocratic so it aims at taking power political power this is what they do again and again and again it's in the world of private armies private political gapo you'll learn if you don't know them already these Terror bearing names the danites the danites is the Mormon secret police and the Shen Pips The Killers The Exterminating Angels of Mormonism uh and they're still around and they're now in the CIA and the FBI surprise so uh it's a Theocratic Freemasonry it's a political faction now all of this is known more or less I mean anybody who wanted to know this could essentially read it out of the primary secondary sources but what I think I add to this which is a discovery and it is unique is that Mormonism is a satellite of British intelligence British intelligence in the 19th century and that the Mormon power that was constructed in The Inter Mountain West between the Rocky Mountains and the Sierra uh Nevada and all the rest the Great Basin The Inter Mountain West this was designed to be a separate country it was a separate country it is the state of Deseret not the United States nothing to do with the United States and hostile to the United States but allied with the British and the reason people look at they they look at Joseph Smith and they say this provincial Mount Bank this transparent charlatan becomes the head of a religion that reaches around the world how is it possible it's not because of some magic power of Joseph Smith I guarantee you it's because of the backing of the London oligarchy the people who ran the British Empire said we need to create centers of military and political resistance against the United States in North America because we're going to have a civil war soon and we want to have a second front we want to be able to cut the Transcontinental Railway or prevent it from being built and which it hadn't been built then but it was would soon be finished and above we want to cut the transatlantic Telegraph which was there the Transcontinental uh Telegraph now um let's look at it's try to make this as uh as as as relevant as we can today I say there is a CIA and FBI Mormon Mafia that this is a powerful intelligence faction actually as time goes on I'm coming to identify them as at least part of the Rogue Network that I've written WR about in my 9/11 book for example the invisible government parallel government secret government Rogue Network looks to me like the Mormon Mafia is a key part of it because of their their Narrative of persecution the idea being that they would like to inflict harm on the United States you read the prophecies they have they have an A fascination with the burning of New York the burning of Philadelphia and Baltimore and washingon Washington that seems to be the the area that interests them the most they want all of that destroyed and uh you don't find that in sources from the U you find it in the British admiralty during the Civil War but you don't find it in us uh sources but uh well you know think of things like 911 I keep that in the back back of your head now right now the one of the main things going on in the reactionary world is Benghazi Benghazi Libya now I uh I have an interpretation of this which I'll just sketch for you briefly now this is a guess but again I'm a good guesser uh I'm a Yankee guesser I this is funny because this is one of the things that Brigham Young says he's a Yankee guesser he's not not not my kind of Yankee but uh you know I guessed with Obama the postmodern coup I guessed that Obama would be the bringer of color revolutions and now we see the Arab Spring right so the world has been there's been a a wave of color revolutions around the world now here's what I say about this this is an October surprise Benghazi okay it's an October surprise in September and it's to cartere Obama and it hasn't really taken off but it's having some effect and here's what it is let's we won't even talk about the film right the film right that the Republicans say is of no importance is of great importance because the film is the packaging of this thing in the entire world in other words there was a demonstration in Egypt that got the whole thing going in Pakistan in 25 other countries in Europe what were they about they were about the film so the film is absolutely important who made the film well the poor little jerus in jail is a py he's a drug informant we have a guy called nazala who leads us to the islamophobia network Pam Geller if you know her well who's the dominant figure in the islamophobia Network these are the people who protested the mosque in lower Manhattan they also were the ones putting these incendiary statements about Savages in the subway of New York Washington San Francisco who's the dominant person in the islamophobia network John Bolton possible Secretary of State under Romney top neocon as part of this campaign but this is not the not the part that I really want to get to Ambassador Stevens I'm afraid I have to be very blunt normally you know nothing but good about the dead but Ambassador Stevens was in Benghazi to negotiate with Al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups because his business was to send them to Turkey and then on to Syria and his last conversation was with the Turkish Diplomat about that so that's why he's there last conversation Turkish Diplomat and he's sitting right in the middle of the terror axis Benghazi to Brook uh DNA what group comes to kill Ambassador Stevens well it's the kumu group kuu KU muu qu muu gu muu kumu was Bin Laden's chauffeur he was put into Guantanamo Bay concentration camp he was then let out after four years now tell me prel how do you get out of Guantanamo and let free you do that by becoming a double agent for the CIA Guantanamo is a training camp it's not just a place of incarceration it's a training base so Kuma went over there and then was a key guy in the overthrow of Gaddafi which was what the US wanted so Kumo's group now comes to kill the US ambassador so wow CIA asset kills US ambassador how about that where's the defense well we're told that there's a 12 person CIA team nearby at an Annex what do they do nothing CIA does nothing we now have stories on the Fox News and other websites that the CIA chain of command told them to stand down H Petraeus says today no it's not true but I don't trust Petraeus never did so they're told to stand down and then we have the February 17th Martyrs Brigade which is another CIA asset and the way we know that is there was a rivalry to see who would become the leader of the Libyan Armed Forces between Unice who was the PE they were the people who had stayed in Libya and a guy called hifter or hater who lived out here near Langley so hater was the CIA candidate the SE the martyrs Brigade the February 17th martyr Brigade killed Unice allowing the CIA candidate to take over so on the basis of that we can say the February 17th martys Brigade is also a CIA asset so to sum it up CIA asset kills US ambassador CIA 12-man team does nothing they say they were told to stand down I think they were and a a group of CIA Irregulars do nothing to save the life of the Ambassador so aren't we dealing here with a um Prima fasi case of some group inside the CIA command that wants this to happen and they want people to die who might that be I say CIA Mormon Mafia FBI Mormon Mafia now how do I know such a thing exists well uh Mormon men males like uh Mitt Romney like tag like all his sons are sent abroad for two years of missionary work they come back they have very rare skill in the US foreign language foreign experience foreign exposure right most people here don't have it not only that but they're straight arrows they don't smoke they don't drink they don't womanize they have very conservative family situations right they get the inside track CIA FBI and ever hear of a guy called Brent scowcroft for many years I can remember in the 80s the '90s long after Kissinger had left power the word was that whenever there was a vacancy at the C the state department whatever it was Kissinger always had a candidate yeah except given Kissinger's well-known somewhat languid lifestyle who's really doing the work of putting together the post with the candidate his right-hand man who's his right-hand man General Brent scowcroft right from all these Republican administrations now if you want to see somebody who's a gray Eminence of the network I think Brent scalt might uh might be the guy he was after all somebody who was in a doomsday aircraft flying around on 911 and could by that virtue of that have become could have become the government of the United States sometime on 911 if if Bush and Cheney hadn't made it right they could have given it to him in in de facto at least so uh Brent scowcroft has been building this faction for quite a while and I'm sure there are all sorts of other people in it now this allows us I think to to see Romney in a light which is qualitatively different from Obama Obama came in as pretty much controlled puppet of the trilateral commission and Wall Street Romney comes in with the backing of a rather formidable Network inside the federal government that wants him to win and they will then want him to do other things so I think that's uh that's a very big consideration that you don't want somebody who can call on that kind of a network especially given the kinds of commitments that they have now let's look at Romney and try to see if we can some of the the signs of the Mormon history culture Traditions working in him well one is that Romney is secretive he won't tell you about his tax returns he won't tell you about his foreign accounts right he's got them in lonstein and the Cayman Islands and Bermuda and Germany except you can't Know It uh taxes can't can't see those and then it's not just secrecy but it's also this other tendency right the flip-flop on so many issues right the ety sketch the ramesia well let's let's see if if there's anything in the history of the Mormon church right this political entity which uh allows us to uh maybe derive the flip-flopping and the secrecy from them well the first thing of course is that it is secret imagine Romney becomes president and the news reporter comes on and say president Romney today worshiped at the Mormon Temple north of Georgia Avenue and unfortunately that's all we can tell you because we're not allowed in and he's not allowed to say anything about it I that already gives me the creeps um uh that you know you can't you can't know what goes on but let's let's now look at the at the history of Mormonism the hot issue on the surface is polygamy I think it's really theocracy and antinomianism but let's look at polygamy polygamy began in the Mormon church with Joseph Smith in the late 1820s we think because he didn't put out a press release when he started with his first Celestial wife he kept it secret he kept it secret all his life Joseph Smith never admitted to being a polygamist and he died in 1844 so for the that whole time Joseph Smith and all the church are lying they're practicing polygamy and they lie about it Joseph Smith well the low estimate is about 35 wives the middle estimate is about 55 wives the high estimate is about 85 wives for Joseph Smith that's polygamy many of these are married women it is thought so that the evidence of his Celestial attentions would not become immediately evident but from the point of view of these women that's not just polygamy that's polyandry in other words the woman is forced to have two husbands or more now uh this was I mean if the man can do it why can't the woman yeah look um here's the thing with Joseph smithx ISE and I I would invite you to seriously think about this one of the I I said the main reason Joseph Smith succeeds as a as a u Mount bank is because the British help him to recruit but there is something more in other words you're dealing with one of the most gifted uh demagogues of of recent centuries I mean I would put him in a c in a class with count costro uh of the I what I regard as a Venetian agent one of the guys who helped to start the French Revolution was count costro maybe you've seen the old there's an old movie about this where the idea is that he could hypnotize an entire crowd in other words a Public Square with a 10,000 people who could hypnotize them I think Joseph Smith is in some kind of a category like this and the way that he does it is by the benefit of multiple personalities and having had in my long and sad career the chance to uh observe uh what can we say cult leaders at close range I I think that this is the key to Joseph Smith in other words you look at him you say what collab polygamy polytheism you can't believe that stuff well part of him does and the part this is to say part of him does believe it is to say that he's got multiple personalities and he's able to call on them and I urge you to look in here I did bring you some quotes from uh one of the people cited by Fawn Brody fwn Brody is the best um biography of Joseph Smith so far and she quotes uh British psychoanalyst by the name of Phyllis greenacre talking about uh the the impostor the impostor and one of her one of her points in talking about the impostor is multiple personalities now Joseph Smith was an impostor that's not just me that's the state of New York in a guilty verdict on Joseph Smith that he's an impostor and a disorderly he's guilty of disorderly conduct but it's the multiple Personalities in other words he's got a calculating businessman personality and then he's got the prophetic personality and he's got some ironic inner distance on himself in other words he says you read these things some good quotes in here he says um he G he try he sells the people a whole bill of goods and then he turns to somebody and he says and of course you've got to know that I'm honest because I'm a prophet am I not um that not merely narcissistic person yeah it's all that it's narcissism but personality it's so extreme that you can't and and here's here's what it leads to multiple personalities multiple wives and multiple gods and I would say this is a world of schizophrenia in other words I think schizophrenia is built in to this so-called religion and and multiple planets and when when he says multiple planets what he really means is parallel universes cuz he's got parallel universes each one being ruled over by a God I was going to ask you um since we're talking about multiple personalities and I know that one of the ways that these personalities are created is through sexual abuse of young children do you believe that Joseph Smith was sexually abused as young child because that is is something if you read about um these multiple personalities how that happens and if you think about Mormonism and the young Brides that they take you know and it's the older man with the the child bride do you think this might have happened to him well the thing about Joseph Smith I that's a very interesting I hadn't thought quite thought about in those terms but that uh in his family he had older brothers and one of them beat him up all the time and persecuted him like mad uh and when you look at at some of the stories which I can't really go into in detail but you look at the Book of Mormon there's a whole lot of stuff about brother killing brother and this seems to be one of the big things going on going on for Joseph Smith the other thing about it is Joseph Smith's mother is an antinomian and this is this uh area it's called the burnover area Western New York and this is twice burned because these people the people that he's starting with to recruit they were burned in the Great Awakening of the 1740s by Jonathan Edwards right sinners in the hands of the Angry God which extreme Calvinism depravity predestination so they're burned once and then they're burned Again by the great Revival of the 1820s so they are bis they're the the biscuit the twice cooked area uh and that's where he that's where he uh he he comes up with these people so let's just talk a little bit about um about this right um my starting point oh wait a minute I got to finish on polygamy so the Mormons from 1830 to 1852 practice polygamy and deny it indignantly what how dare you we'd never do that that's de prayed and Joseph Smith dies lying and even there even scenes where he threatens people he says if you don't if you don't sign a statement saying that I'm not a polygamist I'm going to kill you I'll make cat catfish bait out of you was one of his favorite uh Expressions then from 1852 to 1890 polygamy is proclaimed and practiced and come to Salt Lake City by now they're in Salt Lake City Joseph Smith has been killed Brigham Young leads them to to Salt Lake City and Brigham is different see Joseph Smith uh is on record saying every time I see a pretty woman I pray for grace cuz I'm tempted well he indulged in his Temptations Brigham Young is more about power and his basic calculation is if I can get these men into polygamous marriages I can keep them here right there's no way because they can't leave there's no place in North America where you could be polygamous so once you're polygamous and you've got this family you got to stay here with me CU nobody else will ever take you so that goes on from 1852 to 1890 now there are attempts which I go through I won't go through all the details the moral act uh the Poland act uh Supreme Court decisions on and on by 1890 it's clear to the Mormons they will never get into the Union if they stay polygamous and they will be expropriated it's like Rico there's a law that says if you're a society for the promotion of polygamy you will be expropriated so at that point the the prophet has a revelation uh and you know a couple of weeks before they're going to get all their property seized he said oh God told me that we should obey the law of the land and he and he does so from from 1852 to 18 1890 it's underground but they're still having polygamous marriages I would say the big thing is from 1830 to 1852 polygamy is for the Mormon Elite Joseph Smith and let me mention already parley P Pratt parley P Pratt is the ancestor of Romney and this is like um Christ and St Paul or something like this right parley Pratt is the guy who recruited more Mormons than any body else during this time so uh they're they're in command uh at that time then from from 1852 to 1890 they practice it and Proclaim it and indeed they attract a lot of people there are a lot of farmers who go to South Utah they get five or six wives those become the field hands the husband is the overseer and you have essentially slavery on the southern model but now with women in in the Great Basin then from 18 1990 on it goes back to being not for the elite uh not not for the masses but for the elite the last first president of the Mormon Church who was polygamist died in 1945 and then the question that already came up does Romney have multiple wives I believe he certainly does in the sense of women who are sealed to him for the celestial Haram cuz that's the the doctrine has changed saying on Earth obey the the law of the land but when you get your planet you got to have your harm so you got to get sealed and that means you've got to get these women to pledge themselves to you right and that means not to their husbands their poor husband is going to be castrated and a servant in in the in the celestial realm uh and this is of course this is conducted um with a great deal of duplicity so you can see prevarication lying deception eter sketch and it's always the absolute truth at any point in the process whatever they're saying today is God's absolute truth then of course there's the U the the sort of dissident Mormon are like Warren Jeffs what does this mean Southern Utah where the Romney family lived and Northern uh Northern Arizona is this area where polygamy is dominant today right Colorado City Arizona mayor is a polygamist chief of police a polygamist city council all polygamist um fire chief whatever it is that the entire establishment right judges right there's nothing you can do and Ain hatch Arin hatch we just decided Ain hatch might be a uh candidate for the Supreme Court under Romney and I'm not kidding right he's a saint H well yeah maybe they'll find how about Senator Mike Lee a younger version of the same monstrosity right Mike Lee says that um child labor laws are unconstitutional says Mike Lee but they might uh it hatch at any rate is on on record saying hey some of my best friends are polygamists because they want the votes so Warren Jeff's is of course in the penitentiary but a an upper scale Warren Jeffs goes to goes to uh the White House now I won't go through the entire narrative let's just look at some of the prophecies that might be binding Mitt Romney today okay some of the things which which are not just episodes of Mormon history but um well treason things like this by the way treason Joseph Smith was indicted for treason at least once Joseph Smith tried to take over well he had taken over the uh the part of the Illinois State militia and he tried to use that to uh for his own purposes that was considered treason Brigham Young was indicted for treason at least three times that I know of once in 1858 once in uh at at earlier times so uh this is not such a great uh Tradition now let's look at Joseph Smith's prophecies In 1832 during the um nullification conflict uh Joseph Smith comes out saying there's going to be a huge Civil War South Carolina will start the Civil War and the British will intervene on the start of on the side of the South now what you can see from this is In 1832 he's extremely well informed how can he know all this who knows this In 1832 well I would say certain people in London who are planning to make it happen that would be my guess but now here's the one that really ought to give us pause the White Horse prophecy of 1843 to 1844 Mitt Romney his entire life has been groomed and we have all kinds of you know people talking about this right that he was considered to be the Great White Horse hope for uh for Mormonism because he was the son of the leading Mormon politician of the United States so here here's the way it goes Joseph Smith says and this is key wording someday soon the Constitution will hang by a thread when you hear that watch out it's a coup coming a push the Constitution will hang by a thread at that point the White Horse will intervene the White Horse is the Mormon power of the Inter Mountain West the White Horse will Ally with the red horse the British Empire there will be an intervention a black horse a slave rebellion on the side of the White Horse and the red horse the United States will be gone the Mormons will seize control of North America they will absorb the red horse the British so we'll have a an Anglo Empire worldwide and then we will have to deal with what he calls the Heathen Chinese they have to be pushed aside and the ultimate apocalyptic battle be will be between the white horse having absorbed the red horse and others the White Horse against Russia that's the world according to Joseph Smith now you heard uh even Obama noted this in one of the debates right we have uh earlier in the campaign Romney saying that Russia is the main geopolitical foe of the United States and a lot of people wondered you know what the hell is that I mean maybe you know believing it is one thing but saying this in an election campaign is absolute insanity but he did it and I'm suggesting that maybe this White Horse prophecy is not so far from what we're dealing with and again do I really know I don't know but I don't want to find out and I urge you not to want to find out I don't want to test this I don't want to test this on my own flesh this is not the way that that uh that such things should be done so um and again what's the relation to Mitt Romney well we know that when he was at brigam Young University with his Lily white you know class he's there's a club called the cougars cougars out there means something totally different kugar out there is the the you know the white rich upand cominging uh you know like it's like skull and bones or something like this right at at brigam Young University and they all say mitt you have to carry out the White Horse prophecy George Romney is your father he's he's the uh you know the top elected official now let's also add a couple of other Oaths we've mentioned maybe one or two the oath of obedience the oath of obedience as every moment has got to swear I take orders from the prophet from the first president out there Temple Square Salt Lake City when Utah finally became a state they elected or they chose since it was still chosen Senator Reed Smoot Smoot and yet this is Holly Smoot this was an extreme reactionary pro- Hitler in the 1930s like many Mormons uh Reed Smoot was not seated by the Senate because they said wait a minute how can you take the oath to the Constitution when you've already taken the oath of obedience to the Mormon church and there were long hearings some of which I've uh I've read right where they bring in people and talk to them about it so what what's the story with the oath of obedience by Romney because this he has taken himself guaranteed he took the oath of obedience now I don't you know I have some idea what goes on in Roman Catholicism maybe people here are Catholics I don't think Catholics have to swear any oath to the pope a Jesuit does but I don't think an average Catholic uh has to do that at all that that's my understanding anyway and you can you know imagine some other Church where you've got to take this binding oath and then the oath of Vengeance um I mentioned it before until the late 1920s every time you went to the temple I swear to avenge on the United States and the American people the deaths of the prophets Joseph Smith and ham Smith and I'm going to teach that to Fourth four generations and that extends depending on how you count either to tags kids or even or even um even Beyond now the thing that I bring to all this this is already I think quite um quite scary but now um again how did it happen uh the British um one of the things I one of the stories I tell in here in Paris in the late 1980s I was very privileged to get to know a distinguished orientalist Professor Ali mazaheri of Iran he was one of the top Iranian Scholars working in Western Europe starting in the 1930s already and he said tarp you've got to study the three miracles of the Victorian age and he had three and he said one is Joseph Smith and the Mormons the other is Carl Marx and Marxism and the third is the bab and the religion called bahai which is a rebellion inside Islam and the idea of this was that all of these are Miracles that come at the height of the power of the British Empire the British Empire Peaks worldwide between 1850 approximately and 1870 that is when the British are very close to Total world domination uh the Crimean War the American Civil War are all features of the British trying to get the extra mile so that there'd be no resistance to them anywhere in the world so you're saying that the British had something to yeah I'm going to tell you how bah and the bah Faith yeah sure and now this is not the thing that I studied I'm simply reporting what what bahiri who who did go in I can tell you a couple of others and he's a Muslim I don't know what he was I think he became a Roman Catholic by that time but I'm not sure anyway the ones that I would tell you I would add I would add two or three more the one that I would add most is the Celestial Kingdom of the taii Ping anybody ever hear of that one oh yeah it is the biggest military engagement of the of the 19th century it is the biggest number of deaths caused by War anywhere in the world and it starts with a guy called Hong who says I am the younger brother of Jesus Christ and from this we get an Army in southeast China remember the British are attacking from the outside with opium and the Opium Wars and as a result of this um configration the death toll is usually put between 20 and 30 million people killed by burning crops burning CI these Mass uh exterminations and where did this all start from it started from an American Baptist missionary who worked with Hong and of course at this point you know it's hard to to get the extra stuff but he was an American but I'm afraid with a difference he was from Charleston South Carolina cradle of secessionism and center of British agent recruiting in the in the southern states we can we can go into that you know they didn't kill anyone they were persecuted in fine I'm sorry mazah Hari is no longer with us but these are the ones that he says saying that bah actually went out and killed people no no no no that this was the the destabilization there was what mazah said was that the problem of the British in in India and other places or in the Arab world was that Muslims would not work for the British so they had to they had to create a split within Islam so you get the bahis who were then willing to work for the British as Colonial administrators things like this so it's not all at the level of killing I mean Marx is also not so much much at the level of killing right sometimes B are nothing have nothing to do with Muslim yeah I know I know they they're a split off out of it right they come out of it so and here's here's another one San right this is the synthesis of what is known as Hinduism would appeared to have occurred under a British Governor by the name of sleman in other words the combination of elements of folk religion and other elements and above all Sliman's principal contribution was the thugy Sati cult the stranglers the Widow burning and stuff like this that this was made that in words the most backward and horrific features were brought into the four which is what you know this is what we've seen them do you know in Afghanistan and and similar places then the other one that that is worth mentioning is in Islam also before we before we get to this area wahabism and salafism according to some and this is this is not what my book is about but that wahabism and salafism were promoted by the British in India before they were introduced into Saudi Arabia and other places so what I'm trying to point to in my brief is the British are massively engaged in religious and confessional engineering falsification and all the rest of it right there's also a kind of worldwide notion that the end of the world is near and to me this rings a bell because I've done research about the venetians and Luther or indeed the venetians and savonarola savonarola being kind of a precursor of a lot of these things so but the main thing I want to tell you is the the British and the Mormons let's just take off some of the things uh 1835 we have the first documented contact of an Envoy of the British Apostolic Catholic Church coming from England and meeting with Joseph Smith in 1835 I think this is still Kirtland Ohio 1837 Joseph Smith sends envoys to London to Northern England in particular and by 1839 Joseph Smith transforms he transfers the entire Quorum of the 12 including Brigham Young parley P Pratt Orson Pratt and other bigwigs they all go to Northern England and one of the people they recruit is Miles a Romney miles a Romney brings the over but all the leaders are essentially anglicized and from that point on the massive recruitment of the Mormons comes from Britain Charles Dickens in the uncommercial traveler writes about visiting a boatload of Mormons that are about to leave for uh I guess by that time it's Salt Lake City but get the idea the massive recruiting right the Welsh the uh English English are the biggest single group north of England not South but North poorer people and Scots plus Scandinavia and what it shows is that most people who end up in Salt Lake City have no connection whatever to the United States it's not American it's a foreign country of people who have no they're not interested in the US rather they hate the us because this is what Brigham Young talks about all the time now a couple of um I mean that's always enough to prove it right you can't go into Britain I'm sorry it was a police state then it's a police state now it had elements of a police state under Queen Elizabeth uh you know with the poor sevens if you were a Catholic there were there was a network to get you um if you if you look at what is created right the state of Deseret there's a foreign body and it's allied with the British and it's going to be ready at the time of Southern secession to create a a new front so that's the geopolitics right why Salt Lake City godforsaken Place right why go there because that's where the Telegraph and later the railroad right the golden spike is where Provo Utah get the picture that's where you have to you have to have it so um how did this come to a head then there were two two cases right one is 1857 Brigham Young seceded from the United States it's the first example of secessionism it's the first Civil War in the history of the United States and it's the first time a president says terrorism a strange system of terrorism under Brigham Young is ruling Utah territory but notice he secedes as a territory not even as a state of course the state has no rights except to be governed ultimately by the Congress and a territorial Governor but they do all this uh what he's what I what he's obviously thinking about is he sees Bleeding Kansas he sees the the terrorism and violence going on in canas and he knows that John Brown is about to attack and he thinks that the Civil War will break out in 1858 and he guesses wrong and he's got to stall and at that point Buchanan sends Albert Sydney Johnson the guy who got killed at Shiloh he was the Confederate Commander at Shiloh got killed there he leads the US Army in to take over at least a little piece of Utah territory in the process Brigham Young secedes and he say say no more wagon trains can Cross Utah territory and it there happened to be somebody was mentioning it before the soall faner brown party coming from Arkansas and going to California they have no interest in the Mormons they're just transiting they're on their way out they're almost at the border with you know the Utah border Brigham Young sends in the danites and the Shen Pips and kills 100 13 men women and children down to the age of five or even four it's the biggest Massacre between well what the War of 1812 or the Revolution and the Civil War there's nothing on this scale right it's the Mountain Meadows Massacre and if you look at Romney it's a probably a story that's too long to tell but one of the things that set this up was parley Pratt had gone to chase women in California and he had had found for his Haram I think the 12th wife he found a woman from Arkansas and her husband disagreed and eventually parley Pratt got killed by the husband so this is of course dide so there's a special hatred against Arkansas that's one of the things that makes it makes it possible uh but mainly he wants to shut off essentially to cut the United States off from California which was a state right which was an important state and the only way to get there was across these these Trails so they uh invoke uh that and then proceed to do this uh this massacre uh Mitt Romney's family is implicated in this because parly Pratt is the bloody shirt that they wave Mike levit the transition director and future white house chief of staff covered up for this he's he's got an ancestor a direct ancestor was one of of The Killers Senator Lee of Utah tea party who thinks that child labor laws are unconstitutional he's a descendant in other words you look at the top levels of the Romney Mormon machine these days and you'll see that one of your tickets to get in is you had to have an ancestor who took part in the Mountain Meadows Massacre does that is that the kind of future you want all right then during the Civil War um and naturally I I come into this well I said Yankee um the first of all Brigham Young is euphoric you can see things in his his office St they say we've never seen him so happy Fort Suter bull run you know people getting killed cities being burned oh he says it's Joseph Smith's Civil War prophecy and it's what they you know they deserve right shad and freuder of the Mormons against the United States they couldn't be happier and what they what they're saying this is not for the Confederates at all they say the Yankees and the Confederates will kill each other and we'll take over everything that's their perspective let them kill each other rivers of blood and then the Saints can come marching in except that there was loyal California people from California if you are from California if you have any sense of being a little bit left out of the Civil War narrative now you're back in because it's loyal regiments from California under the general uh a Boston an Irishman born in Ireland who had lived in New York Patrick Connor they come in and they face down Brigham Young and they remind me of the Berlin Brigade right because they March in there they say to the Shen Pips and the danites they say we're coming into Salt Lake City even if hell gapes below us they take over this little fort there about 800 of them Brigham Young could mobilize 50,000 if he wanted to the Berlin Brigade right and they say to they say to B look you can kill us but if you do your whole territory will be raised to the ground and a gulf stream of bayonets will sweep you and your polygamous monstrosity away and eventually that uh that works but that doesn't that doesn't change well bam Young's animous right we have great quotes from briam Young that Abraham Lincoln is anur CED scoundrel that um well it just goes on and on right and it you you'll never feel more American when when you uh when you read that they say the Damned Americans the Gentiles and how we're going to kill them uh again this is quite an eye opener and not exactly The Narrative of you know hyper patriotism and chauvinism that we've been looking for uh one of uh Brigham Young's daughters comments in a moment of cander saying Salt Lake City this is in the late 60s early '70s is the world's biggest whouse and um this is where we get the excesses of polygamy that you can marry a woman and her daughter you can marry a woman and multiple daughters one of them marries a woman and her granddaughter one of them marries a woman with daughters who are too young so you have to wait and the little girl say that you ask him what are you going to do when you grow up we're going to marry pa um another case a nice looking girl is brought in by her father who has to be there for business he protects her from the polygamist he dies at the grave site the Mormon Bishop who pronounced the funeral forces this girl to marry him on the spot cuz otherwise that's the end of her we have briam young briam young has a friend asks him uh my wife is protesting against polygamy what should we do he says to save the sister's Soul cut her throat and they do and you have that all described okay just a couple of other things I mentioned with Smoot that this was a scandal when he came to Washington that he supports the uh the um uh oath of supremacy of of the of the Prophet I submit to you this is again not like the Vatican and Kennedy right this is something more on the side of of religious uh power during the 1930s there is a scandalous flirtation of the Saints and the Nazis for the reasons that that should should be obvious right the Nazis and the and the and the Saints see each other as white white supremacist Jim Crow religion politics there's also this deeper question of the antinomianism and the nitian Superman right if you can become a god under Joseph Smith you can become a Superman under n this is quite uh quite similar so we have when um when Hitler sees his power the Deseret News says Hitler's a great guy he's a vegetarian doesn't smoke doesn't drink he's just like us and later on in 1939 very late in the day April 1939 the Mormons right in uh the Nazi uh Daily Newspaper right the fak gets an article IM Mormon in the land of the Mormons and how the race and folk are cultivated so the Nazi would read that and say these are our friends the only religions that were allowed to to continue in Nai Germany were official Roman Catholic and two kinds of Protestants either Lutheran or reformed Dutch Dutch reformed calvinist and Mormonism nobody else not Jews of course not 7th Day Adventists not Christian Scientists foreign Cults were especially banned Mormonism would seem to be a foreign cult but maybe they had a use for them maybe in an occupation who knows uh let's just jump ahead George Romney great guy huh George Romney older people may remember George Romney coming on during Disneyland in the 1950s selling his cars he was a sponsor okay what's with him well he went to work for Alcoa Aluminum Corporation of America and then later became the spokesman for the automobile manufacturers Association what's a common denominator these are two of the branches of US industry that are most heavily implicated in Nazi cartels with the aluminum cartel it's very very strong Harold the Keys new dealer friend of Roosevelt says if we lose World War II we can thank Alcoa for not producing aluminum because they want to keep their Monopoly and respect their cartel agreements with the Nazi corporations on the other side then later on you go to work for the automobile companies you're working for Henry Ford who financed Hitler uh IR Dupont who owns General Motors he's a Hitler admirer um Alfred P Sloan words you've got German Ford Opel for General Motors they're intimately connected and then I looked at um Romney's 1968 presidential campaign and this is really interesting this gets us to Ryan Paul Ryan too not just mitt George Romney 1968 right he's he's running for president he says it's a moral crisis we've got to have the family we got to have family values we got to have uh you know you can imagine on and on it's a it's a moral crisis now what is this this is something called moral rearmament has anybody ever heard of it it's called Banis or moral rearmament which is pro- Hitler it's starts in Britain in the late 30s and it says the main problem is not Hitler people like this it's that we are morally deteriorated we have to reassert our morality and and that's then what uh what George Romney ran on in uh 1968 and I haven't been able to go there but they said that the his his papers he's got a block of about 20 boxes of papers he's got a panel as Governor about moral regeneration here in the United States now you hear Paul Ryan saying those poor people they need to get a sense of discipline they need to get a sense of order in their lives hey moral rearmament walks and lives all right so Romney was happy to be in a racist church we probably should have de devoted more attention to this point uh as of the book of Abraham around 1840 if you are black if you are the son of ham descended from ham ham is some figure they claim was black in Egypt you cannot become a priest of the Mormon church now priest is a very low level priest is really like confirmed in a Christian context right it goes priest uh Elder Elder is not you know not really it's not an elder like a presbyterian Elder it's priest Elder then you can be a bishop a bishop is the equivalent of a parish priest a stake president stake mean stake in the tent of Zion the stake president would be like a a a Christian Bishop but Romney has been both he's been a bishop a bishop and a state president so he's a bishop hence the title Bishop Romney have we ever had a president who's a bishop I don't think so um so uh it's a racist Church in the sense that if you're black you can't become a member of the priesthood which is usually 12 or 13 so Romney became a recruiter for a racist church for the first 30 years of his life he was content to stay in a racist church now you have to think about this if you're a racist looking for a lily white congregation who could offer you that by the time of the 1950s 6070s the mainline Protestants couldn't the Catholics couldn't who could the Mormons could and this meant that Mormonism was always reactionary it was always flirting with Hitler I would say but then in the 60s and 70s there's an influx where the the the reactionary part becomes even greater note Ezra Taft Benson Ezra tap Benson became the prophet he became the head of the whole thing he is associated with the idea that Martin Luther King is a communist and civil rights is communism says Ezra Taft Benson and when the reactionaries and racists wanted to recruit a candidate 1968 before they tried Governor Wallace they offered it to Ezra Benson and he was restrained by the hierarchy but then when Wallace became the Presidential nominee he came back to Ezra Benson and said why don't you be the Vice Presidential nominee but he uh couldn't another interesting tentacle here is the John bir Society if you remember them this is wholly a tentacle of Mormonism and the key guy there is Cleon scowen in terms of the ideology I know that the money comes from this guy the the Robert Welsh and the you know the the jam and and grape juice King but Cleon scowen wrote the books right the naked capitalist and so forth Cleon scowen good example of the FBI Mormon Mafia because he was from the FBI became chief of police Salt Lake City and then became this kind of a theoretician now the John Bur Society H center of gravity where Wisconsin Wisconsin Republican party Ryan so Ryan when when mitt says Ah I got that good chemistry with Paul what do they mean it means that we got the mainline Mormons and we've got an ideological tentacle of uh of Mormonism this is ironic because the Republican party in 1856 was born as the party that said we're against polygamy and slavery Republican platform 1856 and now with with Romney and Ryan polygamy at least and slavery of a certain kind I think is actually knocking at the door all right now there'll be a million more things let me just wrap up um you know there's a million scandals right tag tag Romney is implicated in controlling voting machines I urge people get ready for massive vote fraud notice I say vote fraud not voter fraud voter fraud is done by little people for you know petty cash it's of no consequence I'm talking voter fraud done by Carl Rove hey guess where Carl Ro grew up Salt Lake City is call Ro a crypto Mormon I guess only his his Bishop know or his Confessor know whatever he is what knows for sure but he certainly he has em bibed the antinomian spirit of Mormonism as we've all seen uh so I'm I'm getting ready for vote fraud uh meaning computer generated massive millions of votes uh and of course it's perfectly clear right the the Republican party does not want black or brown people to vote and who joins them in this Mormon theology the the the antiblack part is the book of Abraham the anti-brown part is the Book of Mormon itself if you're black or brown it means that somewhere back in your family tree it was an angel who refused to take sides between the Mormon Jesus and his brother otherwise known as the devil so if you have a skin color it's because of this now two quick scenarios if Romney wins Romney is likely to represent the end of divided government and a complete GOP regime and again it'll be neocons for foreign policy and Mormons for domestic and economic and if you're not one of those groups woe to you then I believe that they will have an attempt to create a permanent austerity dictatorship which is what Carl Ro the the crypto Mormon as I call them the crypto Mormon Carl Ro has been planning right 40 Years of of dictator ship the way they'll do this is suppress the franchise you know how I voter ID Purge the roles no early voting harassment intimidation signs whatever it is you've got citizens united with maximum money coming in and then you've also got the Supreme Court how about Ain hatch or Mike Lee or somebody like this on the Supreme how about Mike levit for the Supreme Court I don't know um and in the background the CIA Mormon Mafia the FBI Mormon Mafia I think that that would then be an attempt to have a permanent austerity dictatorship under the aices of the Republican party now suppose Obama wins one of the hopes I I got this right after right after Romney had visited the Bilderberg Group in chanelli Virginia he made a secret trip into the Bilderberg at the beginning of June not not Obama but Romney this year yeah sure we were right there I mean didn't see him but you know we we we got the word out uh you know it's it's clear the the he's the establishment candidate right the the um Wall Street is giving him more money the Federal Reserve did not act to keep Obama in power and uh the Bilderberg Group seems to want uh want M right because this is uh it would it's like somebody like belone or you know where the where the richest man or you know a rich businessman takes over the government of the country kind of thing you associate with Latin America or some you know less less developed uh democratic tradition certainly it's it's a tremendous step downward for us here um he'll he'll try to steal uh the election with the help of caro but now let's suppose it it doesn't uh work the Republican party has to win now cuz in the future they may be doomed this is the party of white men reactionary old white men how many of them are there there's a Vanishing breed so now we have Hispanics we have Asians we have all sorts of other people another election cycle may put the presidency permanently Out Of Reach In other words if you're the racist reactionary and xenophobic right anti-immigrant Republican party what's your perspective it's not good is it I think that eventually they might dwindle to being what they really are which is a bunch of racist and reaction in the Deep South and maybe some High Plains or some other places and this might actually go very very fast if Romney loses there would then be a wave of acrimony where the tea party people come forward and say we told you he's not reactionary enough you need a pure blood reactionary as presidential candidate this will carry them off the stage I would say and at that point we also know that that Obama will attack his own base in November and December this is the so-called Grand bargain we've read the de Mo register interview we've read all the internal stuff Obama is going to go for killer austerity after running against killer austerity at least most people think he will turn around and impose killer austerity that's the grand bargain that's the lame duck session that's the fiscal cliff in other words he'll say we're going to gouge trillions out of Medicare we're going to gouge trillions out of Social Security just read that de Mo register GRE Greek model basically yes a a Greek Spanish or British style severe austerity portug now with with Romney it's clear you're going to get that right I would just say Romney ENT Romney argument to the ruling class would be I'll give you a 30% cut in the US standard of living and that money goes into your pocket that they like Obama says I'll give you a 15% cut and it'll be ailable for bailouts and corporate welfare and says Obama in my way of doing things you won't have all the extra cost of riots strikes and maybe a Civil War in other words he'll say the the the overhead expenses of of of Obama's method are less because with his radiant Visage he dispels all resistance whereas with Romney get you're going to gear up for some heavyduty uh struggle right I mean people can feel it right once the shock has passed so um but then eventually my my scenario for getting out of this terrible impass which we've been there for the last 6 eight eight years if the Republican Party can be crushingly defeated and at this point any defeat is a crushing defeat because again the demographics are working against them the clock is ticking right their racism is coming home to roost their hatred of foreigners is coming home to roost they could collapse again dwindle they wouldn't be a national party anymore they shouldn't be with all the money in catch's coffers right or C's coffers but then we have the the Democratic party what should happen to them that they split into two parts a Wall Street Democrats with Obama and Schumer and so many of them Pelosi and something more radical something more populist this not Wall Street 100% who could this be well Marcy Captor defasio sherid Brown uh there are some others right huh Barbara yeah right people like this some of the black caucus not all but some a lot of them would have to go along just for the sake of appearances but you get the idea and as far as I can see that's the hopeful scenario Republicans lose Democrats split and again it can go very very fast now the last thing is you know who do I support people say to me who should I vote for who should I vote for first of all forget about it right getting V getting voting is not like getting married right it's not a choice of that sort it can be done for tactical reasons cynical reasons um you want to avoid divided you want to keep divided government you want to avoid one party rule you want to uh try to um vote for the protest party if you find one that has the most bang to the buck my sentimental favorite Cherry Huna running vice president for the green party I don't like the Green Party but Sher hunah had the great Merit she ran for Sheriff of Philadelphia a year ago and her Pro her program was you elect me Sheriff there will be no more foreclosures because I won't carry them out I'll block them and unfortunately a lot of dumb people from the Democratic machine voted for uh the opposition so she didn't get that but that's you know that's something that's something some scrap of decency uh to vote for but the main thing I recommend is Obama the death of a Thousand Cuts Romney The Texas Chainsaw Massacre all over in 3 minutes on you so what I recommend I spent the weekend in New York City on the eve of the hurricane the united front against austerity I'm calling for people to organize against this monstrosity the Wall Street Democrats and the reactionary Republicans if the ruling class says to you Romney and Obama now shoes the answer is general strike to get out there and and say no to this this is absolutely unacceptable and you know it takes a while right it took a while in Greece it took a while elsewhere but eventually you know if the American people are not just going to lie down and play dead there will be now a new season of what I would call class struggle labor struggles to be sure uh and the point is uh each Romney and and and Obama each offer opportunities and and difficulties but this is this is the world that's now coming and if you don't do this you will get austerity on the Greek model and we'll get you know suicide Rising as a cause of death uh in this country too so I urge you uh the reason I wrote this is I thought I had thoroughly discredited Obama with two books Obama the postmodern coup and Barack H Obama the unauthorized biography so had nothing more to add to that I think I've told you everything about about Obama there is to tell and I don't think any books have added anything much to what i' had already found but now I thought I had to even with limited resources to put this out now if you want to support my work your path is clear go to Progressive press.com buy a copy for $6 the price of a latte you can get a nice ebook copy or for your library for Holiday giving all the uh year-end holidays coming up um one lady said she'd given her uh you know she gave it to her father and he was extremely um angry at Romney finding these things out because this is designed to travel far among people who are not necessarily left-wingers right in other words it it it points to this aspect of treason right of subversion right of of hating the United States and again you can be ambivalent about that but you really don't want somebody who hates the American people in the white house that would be my my strong recommendation this is not a good idea right this is going to lead to problem is this time for questions I guess it is I thought that's what we have now yeah very much uh well again um I do I I allow you to compare right with Romney it's the 47% Ty right the 47% are parasites they'll never take responsibility for their own lives and somehow it's that they are morally flawed hookman ISM right moral rearmament that you the problem is with you you are morally inferior you 47% now it's outrageous right because these are veterans these you know we you've heard this all from from Democrats right saying how outrageous it is but in the case of uh Obama you know what he says right he uh he goes through the uh the stuff about um the bitter clingers right he says the jobs disappeared 25 years ago he's by the way he's also talking to to Moneybags with Romney it's Moneybags in Florida Obama Moneybags in San Francisco so he's Obama talks to his money bags in 2008 and he says the jobs went away 25 years ago and the people are left there the jobs didn't come back that's his man vuler who took the jobs but he does tell you that there's they're there clinging bitterly to guns religion anti-trade now I cling to anti-trade Big Time uh because I would like a protective tariff and I I never voted for globalization and um essentially you know hating people that are not like you says Obama so I would say if you compare those you'd say yes Obama does have an animus against large parts of the American people no doubt about it but I think in the case of Romney the animist is more severe in other words it's more from the school of the oath of Vengeance rather than the with with Obama it's the foundation view in other words that It ultimately says the American masses are practically hopeless they're super Patriots they're racists they're reactionaries and we don't like them I mean that that would be the sort of upper middle class social engineering view but with with Romney it's much more this is now a super rich um moral rearmament view which I again I think is more extreme that's just my impression I why don't the bilderbergs like Obama cuz his his usefulness has expired they would say he was there last he he aborted they like him too he aborted the moment right the moment was 2008 if you had somebody of the caliber of Franklin D Roosevelt you could have had sweeping reform break the back of Wall Street break the power of Finance Capital introduce a second New Deal could have been done and there were even those advancing programs in real time how it could be done like me but uh what what what Obama did was to abort the moment now the moments will come back we hope we don't know but we hope but that moment is aborted I think I think the thing about Obama is he's had a momentum you he's passed the ndaa with indefinite detention he's bailed out the banks he's done a lot of things that's made them happy in the Bilderberg yes but you know now to stall because people are starting to wake up so if you get a new guy in there oh look mitt ronley he's going to save us and it's the same thing when you know you had Bush oh Obama's going to be so much better hope and change and it's like it's just a sick psychological twist all the time of of Hope and this when it's the same candidate over and over again who was bought off by the bankers I mean when you were talking I was reminded of Alistair Crowley who says do what thou Wilt because that is what they do whatever is is you know is good for them and you know takes from us the poor in the middle class whatever is right for them do what thou Wilt that's what it reminded me of yeah I mean the ruling Elite is ant I tried to point out on the right wing we have nanism we have a rism right a Rand would be a derivative of n so now we've got the new a Rand movie we've got Ryan being a acolyte of a Rand uh and then we've got this Mormon version um in the case of Obama this is a little well Obama is simply a puppet was Obama was in there to abort the moment and when the bankers came to the White House said to them the only thing standing between you and the pitchforks is me so you better value me but now they they're not afraid of him anymore they're not afraid of the moment they feel that they can dump him and go to an extreme austerity dictatorship uh and indeed there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of resistance but that me what one thing the back to Fantastic we have a congressional Progressive caucus there's only 62 guys in it I think most people are afraid of being called a CP proper res but what do you think of that I'm I'm going to have a uh I mentioned a a lame duck agenda session a workshop and get the cpcs to to work on that uh cassen I know you a little about him but we got some we got some pretty good people there I think but way do you think of the CPC well um well there are a lot of left liberal mush heads and left mush heads in there right and I consider that to be a debilitating uh disease in other words if you're if if Nom chsky is your idea of an intellectual if Michael Moore is your idea of a filmmaker and Amy Goodman is your idea of a news source then my condolences go with you as you go down to defeat in other words we one of the one of the problems in Greece right in order to create cza right the left block that went from 3% to 28% or something like this was that they had to say you know certain people who have been acting as leaders have to be dumped they've got to be they've got to go and that would include most of the again left liberal stalwarts of the last decades right these people are worse than useless they're they're absolute poison they're guaranteed failure and and and downfall right so you got to have some something much more radical has got to be to be brought in so no but he wanted to hear about the uh the caucus yeah some of those people in that caucus have to break out of it though because there are people I don't want to mention names is Lyn Wy retiring I think she is I can say she was an example of what kind of leadership not to have and of course kusin if you're going to do all that cusin you might as well tell the truth about the main covert operations and things like that which he always refused to do so now he's harvested defeat a lot of these people have been defeated so many times that they're practically synonymous with defeat impotence and and and U and and the impossibility of doing anything so I would recommend something new okay what's what's your question this has been a uh most unusual evening for me I walked in off the street uh