The Night I Realised Epstein Wasn’t Normal - Eric Weinstein
Q. : You met Jeffrey Epstein -- once.
Eric Weinstein : Yep.
Q. :Talk to me about what that's like -- coming face to face with somebody of that.... calibre.
(chuckles) ......whatever that means!
Um well one thing is that there is a physiological reaction that corresponds to this phrase that you know the hair on the back of my neck stood on end like that's a real physiological feeling I don't know whether the hair actually does that but it's exactly what it feels like you're meeting somebody who is Unholy --
And you know one of the most interesting things is that he was beckoning into a world that didn't seem to exist but for him -- as it as the door as the doorm I think that's one of the things that freaked out a lot of these rich people is is that he he felt rich in a movie Sense which is not something that you find among actually rich people what do you mean
Well, a lot of very wealthy peopledon'town An Island --
Islands are really tough to to maintain --
I'm obsessed with islands, and you know, in general I have to be obsessed with islands that have airports run by other people because, you know.... have populations on them -- but every rich personstarts to wonder : ".....could I afford an can I afford An Island...?" or "How many jets...?"
and if you look at Jeffrey Epstein's wealth it was beaten it was like gold beaten into gold foil so that it could cover a vast area and leave the impression of a solid gold life but it was really probably a mid n figure fortune that had been used to buy islands and planes which is not what any nine figure person is going to do --
Q. : So you had a felt sense,
an embodied sense of discomfort --
Eric Weinstein : -- oh hell yeah.
Q. : -- and where did that come from?
Eric Weinstein : -- the fact that he had a lipstick camera pointed at me from an art object; that he laid a table that was preposterouslylong and thin with a tablecloth made of an American flag to make it look like a coffin so that I would spill my coffee on the flag of my own country --
I mean the fact that he looked like a mutant Ralph Lauren with this kind of lubricious quality and he's talking all of the science and Market stuff and nothing adds up and there's An Heiress,bouncingon his knee, to get her boobs to jiggles to see whether it can distract me, and--
It's like one of these crazy scenes where nothing about it was normal there was just no there was no trace of a normal world --
Q. : That's sounds like a script from a movie --
Eric Weinstein :Yeah I mean, I think part of it, uh -- John Travolta is like putting a gun to your head and forcing you to drink and break a code in a minute -- like that part of it and then there was some sort of like.... you know remember that that story The Most Dangerous Game where a man invites you to His Island so he can hunt you ?
You know this was scary and it was it was meant to be scary
Q. : -- sounds menacing.
Eric Weinstein :-- well I think His Product was Silence; people think that His Product was Sex or Finance but it was Silence, I'm pretty sure --
how do you what's that mean if you're scary enough look rich people can get sex but they can't necessarily get people to shut up afterwards so my take on it and my take on it instantly was this is not an actual human this is a construct of someone someone has created a fake human being called Jeffrey Epstein who's a mysterious currency trading financier with crazy rules so that no one would ever invest with him and I think that was to keep people from seeking his Investment Services I mean he you know he's labeled disgraced financier but nobody has a record of trading with him --
he was sitting there he comes into the meeting and he says you know, well "Well Eric, I was just doing some currency trading --"
and I I thought about that scene that you sometimes see in as a meme with Steve Buschemi with A Skateboard over his shoulder "Hello fellow teenagers!"
so I'm thinking "You don't really look like A Rich Guy who trades in Markets --"
Q. :That's that I'm finding myself intrigued by here, is it takes a moderate amount of cognitive horsepowerto be able to piece togetherthis theater that you sat down at ---
yeah deployed in a nefarious malicious manipulative way MH but it's smart what do you mean it's smart same more it's it's not something that could be done by a simple mind you think he did it oh he has a team of manipulators no when I say I think he was a construct I literally mean that I think he was constructed like fitted with a story oh so you think he was a plant no I think he was a construct what's that okay you're gonna have to dig into I think Jeffrey Epstein supergenius financier was not a thing that existed where did the money come from we going to mumble Lex Wexner okay so that's what you Mumble but then you know there's this missing Fortune of Robert Maxwell and this Fortune of Jeffrey Epstein that we don't can't explain are those the same fortune it's like a conservation of uh of money principle that if you have a fortune that's missing and you have a fortune that can't be explained and they connected by gilain Maxwell I don't know I why is it that no hedge funds what is it they file form I forget if it's 13f there certain forms that you have to file um nobody's ever asked for these things who's his prime broker where has somebody gone over the prime brokerage uh his what are his trades he he would have to move the market if he was you know doing a yard of Euros or Swiss Franks or who knows what like a billion um that would move the market so there's no way you can fake retroactively a hedge fund of immeasurable size that trades currencies I I don't think he was a currency Trader he told me he was a currency Trader So when you say a construct who constructs who's the Builder I don't know I would imagine some version of the intelligence Community you know sometimes somebody's cover gets blown um we have we have a very famous unfortunate story of Ellie con with the Mad where Ellie con was an Egyptian Jew who was fitted with the backstory that he was an Argentinian Playboy uh who' made a fortune in Argentina but was Arabic in origin and then he moves to Damascus and he takes out an apartment where he holds orgies and um becomes the best friend of HZ alas right and so that's an example of a story we know we know how the intelligence communities of the world create people who don't really exist construction of I know that this is just a one uh time thing here that you got to see but the construction of the coffin looking American flag the spilling of the coffee this weird power play thing that's going on that seems now that you say that uh it wasn't him even pulling his own strings perhaps it makes a lot more sense but even that that degree of sophistication I learned this from Daniel schmachtenberger we sat down and he's spent some time with particularly powerful people yeah and he told me this really harrowing story of somebody who has both the desire and the means to treat themselves like an apex predator against their own kind and they said so they broke the fourth wall about this and said said apex predators don't care about the prey but they saw their own kind as prey and I asked Daniel how does it feel to sit opposite somebody who isn't rate limited by the resources who can not only dream to have this plus uh have the motivation or lack of virtue or Integrity to go ahead and consider doing it and then has the capacity the assets to be able to enact it sure and it's reminding me it's giving me the same something it feels like it feels like it's up on the top of my head it's giving me some sort of a sense like that this was intended to be terrifying it wasn't an accident it was intended to be as fascinating as it could possibly be which it was and terrifying at the same time and it achieved both it achieved both objectives I I was given an opportunity to meet him again I didn't know what to do I mean the other thing I just found really weird is that he knew about my research and it turned out that he was connected to my graduate department at Harvard so he he had a connection to the Harvard math department unbeknownst to me I don't know when that began I know two of the professors he was connected through but th this is some Unholy story it has nothing to do with Jeffrey epy it has to do with whatever this thing was we tripped over a thing we tripped over a structure we named the structure Jeffrey Epstein it must be very unfortunate in some regards for whoever it was if that's true that was in charge of this construction uh that it became that people got t-shirts with his name printed on them this was already going wrong in the early 2000s you see my sense of this is that this was a pre-internet plan that lived into the internet age and couldn't survive contact with the internet age what did the internet bring in that didn't allow it to survive eyeballs discussion level of surveillance like you know there's a claim that nobody cares about Jeffrey Epstein because it's this many years later and we've all moved on yeah that's completely untrue and we know that it's true because if you start talking about Jeffrey Epstein the the engagement goes up so you have these fictions like you know that are put out by mainstream Media or traditional news desks which is nobody cares about that story well that you can see from social media that that's not true from the internet so the internet is constantly providing an ability to check whether or not these claims from inside the structure true and Jeffrey Epstein is an example of what I've called an an anti-in phenomenon what's that well an anti- interesting thing is something that would normally be fascinating imagine for example you had a story where you could get a pulet Sur prise for breaking it everybody cares you sell papers like hot cakes blah blah blah and nobody wants to report on it and it's like right there you could just ask the dumbest questions and it would like New York Times says disgraced Finance year well tell me did you find his prime broker did you find the forms did you go to his offices in vard house no nobody does ever the story is anti-in and it's very different than being uninteresting which would suggest more collusion more coordination hello I mean see this is what this is one of the most uncomfortable things I think there was a time when mostly when people said collusion or coordination their presumption was well that's kind of that's pretty far out there we now know like post Elon musk's $44 billion Adventure at Twitter that there are these coordinating groups coordin coordinating social media with the intelligence Community or with the Department of Homeland Security or with the state department we now know that we're living in an orchestrated cor you know curated choreographed world and we can't know it officially but we all know it if we want to know which is hysterical now we have to talk about well are you a conspiracy theorist like I I read I read the slack messages I read the email what what what are you even talking about now this episode is brought to you by a product I've 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[Prime transforms into his truck mode, charged through the Decepticons knocking them one by one to the ground. Suddenly Prime blast off from the ground, up in the air, and transformed into robot mode shot at Dirge, Thundercracker and Soundwave to the floor before he landed to the ground.]
MEGATRON:
Prime.
OPTIMUS PRIME:
One shall stand, one shall fall.
MEGATRON:
Why throw away your life so recklessly?"
OPTIMUS PRIME:
That's a question you should ask yourself Megatron.
MEGATRON:
No -- I'll crush you with my bear hands.
The battled between Megatron and Prime begin. Megatron leaped onto Prime and they both fall onto the ground.]
HOT ROD:
I've got to help Prime.
KUP:
Stay away lad, that's Prime's fight.
MEGATRON:
I'll rip out your optics.
[Despites the heavy beating, the long fight, and a cut through the mid section, Prime finally won the battle.]
KUP:
Finish him off Prime, do it now.
[Prime pointed his rifle onto Megatron]
MEGATRON:
No more Optimus Prime, grant me mercy, I beg of you.
[Megatron fell onto his knee, suddenly he saw a gun that was hidden from Prime view which he intended to use as a sneak attack.]
OPTIMUS PRIME:
You who are without mercy,
now plead for it…?
I thought you were made
of sterner stuff.
HOT ROD:
No you don't Megatron.
[Hot Rod saw Megatron and his intention so he leaped onto Megatron.]
OPTIMUS PRIME:
Out of the way Hot Rod.
[Megatron quickly headlocked Hot Rod, got the gun and quickly blasted a couple of blasts onto Optimus Prime in midsection]
MEGATRON:
Fall...fall....ah.....I would've waited an eternity for this... it's over Prime.
OPTIMUS PRIME:
Never!
[As Megatron came closer, Prime clung both hand together and hit Megatron onto the midsection sending Megatron up in the air and fall down to a lower level.]
HOT ROD:
Optimus, forgive me.
[Hot Rod came to assist the falling Prime]
STARSCREAM:
How do you feel,
mighty Megatron…?
Hyah!
[Starscream kicked on the lying Megatron then gave order to Astrotrain]
Astrotrain — Transform,
and get us out of here.
MEGATRON:
Ah...Don't leave me Soundwave.
SOUNDWAVE:
As you command Megatron.
[Soundwave carried Megatron on the shoulder, Rumble small size carried Megatron's huge canon. I thought that scene was funny]
ARCEE:
The Decepticons are retreating.
KUP:
Prime did it, he turned the tide.
[Autobots shot at the fleeing Decepticons while they were boarding Astrotrain and retreated to Cybertron.]
STARSCREAM:
Astrotrain take off.
[Scene was now cut to Autobots interior room where Ultra Magnus, Kup, Hot Rod, Arcee, Blurr, and Daniel were watching the evaluation of Perceptor analysis on Prime condition who was lying on some sort of flat board.]
PERCEPTOR:
I fear the wounds are fatal.
[The comic used the word "Mortal" instead of Fatal]
DANIEL:
Prime, you can't die.
OPTIMUS PRIME:
Do not grieve. Soon I shall
be one with The Matrix.
HOT ROD:
Prime.
[Spoke in a low tone almost in whisper]
OPTIMUS PRIME:
Uh, uhhh...
Ultra Magnus, it is to you, old friend,
I shall pass the Matrix of Leadership, as it was passed to me.
ULTRA MAGNUS:
But Prime, I'm....
I'm just a soldier,
I am not Worthy.
[Ultra Magnus shoke his head and with his hand up as he was reluctantly to accept this new role]
OPTIMUS PRIME:
Nor was I...
[Magnus came close to Prime and gripped both
of his hand on one of Prime hand, very touchy.]
-- but one day...
An Autobot shall rise from our ranks
....and use the power of the Matrix...to light....
our darkest hour.
[Magnus released his hand from Prime who now used the two hand to open his chest cavity revealing a Matrix. Prime tried to pass the Matrix to Magnus with his hand but was fell short as his life came to an end. Hot Rod quickly grabbed the falling Matrix just as it was about to hit the ground. As soon as Hot Rod touched the Matrix, there was lighted all over him. Magnus now took the Matrix from Hot Rod and awkwardly put the Matrix onto his chest cavity as though the Matrix didn't fit him correctly. Now we saw Prime life chart signal no longer beat or rise but just a flat line...meaning he was dead. Everyone wept around him as his body discolored out from red to black.]
[Scene then cut to Unicron as he was monitoring the situation of Prime and learned that the Matrix had been passed to Magnus. Unicron screamed with sorrow as his threaten by the Matrix lived on.] [Scene now showed the interior of Astrotrain as the Decepticons aboard inside him added heavy loads that prevented him from make it to Cybertron. Now it was Decepticons versus Decepticons...the strong stayed onboard and the weak were thrown off to space]
ASTROTRAIN:
Jettison some weight
or I'll never make it to Cybertron.
STARSCREAM:
Fellow Decepticons, Astrotrain has requested that we lighten our burden." 139 BONECRUCHER: "In that case I say it is survival of the fittest." 140 STARSCREAM: "Do I hear a second on that?" 141 SOUNDWAVE, DIRGE, RAMJET, THRUST, BLITZWING, : "ayes." 142 STARSCREAM: "And against?" 143 THUNDERCRACKER, SKYWARP, INSECTICONS: "Nay." 144 STARSCREAM: "The ayes have it." 145 SOUNDWAVE, DIRGE, RAMJET, THRUST, BLITZWING: "Get, make room for others, "
[Thundercracker, Skywarp, and Insections all were forced to be thrown off board by their healthy Decepticons.] 147 STARSCREAM: "Oh how it pains me to do this." 148 MEGATRON: "Wait, I still function." 149 STARSCREAM: "Wanna bet."
[Starscream threw Megatron out into space] 150 MEGATRON: "Starscream!!!!!" 151 STARSCREAM: "Well as Megatron has, how shall we say, departed, I nominate myself as the new leader." 152 SCRAPPER: "Wait, a constructicons form Devastator, the most powerful robot, we should rule." 153 SOUNDWAVE: "Soundwave superior, Constructicons inferior." 154 BONECRUSHER: "Who are you calling inferior." 155 HOOK: "Nobody would follow an un-charismatic bore like you."
RUMBLE [BLUE]:
No one calls Soundwave un-charismatic.
FRENZY [RED]:
Yeah, let's take tailgate.
SCRAPPER:
Constructicons unite!
RUMBLE & FRENZY:
No way.
[Rumble & Frenzy immediately activated their pile drive causing the surface to shake that prevented the Constructicons from merging. Now, everyone began to fight with one another.]
[Somewhere in space, the falling Decepticons that were kick off board from Astrotrain, now had been intercepted by Unicron.]
UNICRON:
Megatron....Megatron.
Welcome Megatron.
MEGATRON:
Who..who said that?
UNICRON:
I...am Unicron.
MEGATRON:
Show yourself.
[Megatron did not know that the giant planet Unicron was a living robot. Unicron was still in his planet mode not robot yet.]
UNICRON:
I have summoned you
here for A Purpose --
MEGATRON:
Nobodysummons Megatron.
UNICRON:
-- then it pleases me
to be The First.
MEGATRON:
State you business.
UNICRON:
This is My Command : You are to Destroy
The Autobot Matrix of Leadership --
it is the one thing, the only thing
that can stand in My Way --
MEGATRON:
You have nothing to fear,
I have already crushed
Optimus Prime
with my barehands.
UNICRON:
You exaggerate --
MEGATRON:
The point is he's dead, and
The Matrix died with him.
UNICRON:
No, the point isYou are A Fool,
The Matrix has been passed to
a new Leader... Ultra Magnus.
Destroy it for me.
MEGATRON:
Why should I?
What's in it for me?
UNICRON:
Your bargaining posture is highly dubious -- but very well.
I will provide you with a new body and new troops to command.
MEGATRON:
And?"
UNICRON:
'And', nothing!
You belong to me now."
MEGATRON:
I belong to nobody!
UNICRON:
Perhaps I misjudged you, proceed...on your way to oblivion.
MEGATRON:
Ah...., no, no...!!
I accept your terms,
I accept...ah....!
UNICRON:
Excellent.
[Megatron was scanned and reformat with a new body and a new name called Galvatron, Thundercracker became Scourge. Kickback and Shrapnel became the Sweep for Scourge (Thundercracker) to command. Bombshell became Cyclonus while Skywarp became Armada for Cyclonus (Bombshell)].
UNICRON:
Behold, Galvatron!
And these, shall be your minions.
Scourge, the tracker and his huntsmen, the Sweeps.
Cyclonus, the warrior, and his armada.
And this shall be your ship. Now go...Destroy The Autobot Matrix.
GALVATRON:
I will rip open Ultra Magnus
and every other Autobot,
until The Matrix has
been destroyed.
To Cybertron."
[Galvatron with the new troops and ship are off to Cybertron.] 183 UNICRON: "Destroy the Matrix." [Scene was now cut to Starscream who was celebrating his coronation as the Decepticons new leader with the Constructions played a trumpet for the celebration. Astrotrain was crowning Starscream.] 184 STARSCREAM: "Get on with the Ceremony. "
[Starscream blasted the Constructicons trumpet because he was to eager to become the Decepticons leader.]
185 STARSCREAM: "My fellow Decepticons, as your new leader I..."
[Suddently, Galvatron and troop arrived at the scene.]
186 STARSCREAM: "Who disrupts my coronation?" 187 GALVATRON: "Coronation Starscream? this is bad comedy." 188 STARSCREAM: "Megatron? Is that you?" 189 GALVATRON: "Here's a hint." [Galvatron transformed into his canon mode and blasted Starscream into ashes as the other Deceptions were stunted by the outcome.] 190 GALVATRON: "Will anyone else attempt to fill his shoes?" 191 RUMBLE [BLUE]: "What'd he say his name was?" 192 GALVATRON: "Galvatron" 193 ALL DECEPTICONS: "Long live Galvatron! Galvatron!" - Chapter Ten: A Hungry Planet - [Scene was shifted to Moon Base One where Jazz and Cliffjumper were about to be devoured by Unicron.] 194 JAZZ: "Where'd that come from?" 195 CLIFFJUMPER: "Who cares, I'm more worried about where it's going."
[Moon Base One was now being devoured by Unicron as Jazz radioed to Blaster on Earth.] 196 JAZZ: "Talk to me Earth, we got a situation out here. "
[Scene now panned back to Earth: Blaster, Ultra Magnus, Arcee, Springer, Daniel were retooling Autobot City]
197 JAZZ'S VOICE PICKING UP BY BLASTER: "Roger me, wilco me, anything, hello hello Earth." 198 BLASTER: "I'm picking up a fade signal."
[Blaster transformed into his radio mode as everyone stopped what they were doing and paid attention to the transmission] 199 JAZZ's VOICE: "This is Jazz, a gi-normous weird looking planet had showed up in the suburb of Cybertron." 200 CLIFFJUMPER' VOICE: "And it's attacking Moonbase One." 201 ULTRA MAGUS: "Jazz, Cliffjumper!" [Scene was cut back to Moon Base One as Unicron was tearing Moon Base One to pieces. Jazz and Cliff were rushed to a near by shuttle.]
JAZZ:
Got to blast free if we can.
CLIFFJUMPER:
Ignition and..."
JAZZ:
Hit it!"
CLIFFJUMPER:
Jazz, we're notgetting away!
[Jazz, Cliffjumper, and Moon Base One had been devoured by Unicron. Unicron then traveled to Moon Base Two location. Scene then shift to Bumblebee and Spike on Moon Base Two] 206 SPIKE: "This is spike and Bumblebee up here on Moon Base Two."
[Ultra Magnus and crews watched on their monitor as Bumblebee and Spike reported more bad news.]
BUMBLEBEE:
This thing, this monster planet just ripped the first moon to shreds.
SPIKE:
And it's heading this way.
BUMBLEBEE:
We'll try and slow it down.
SPIKE:
But you'd better get here fast, because we're not gonna...
[Communication got cut off as Moon Base Two was being tearing apart by Unicron.]
DANIEL:
Dad!
[Scene cut to Moon Base Two]
SPIKE:
Bumblebee, activate the explosives.
If this doesn't stop it, nothing will."
BUMBLEBEE:
The explosives are activated, let's get outta here.
Hurry it's gonna blow!"
[Bumblebee and Spike set up enough time for them to escape Moon Base Two before the explosion took place.]
BUMBLEBEE:
Alright!
SPIKE:
Hooray...!
BUMBLEBEE:
We did it, hahaha!
SPIKE:
We done it!
[Spike and Bumblebee high five one another as they watched the explosion was being taken place as Unicron was devouring Moon Base Two.]
BUMBLEBEE:
Way to go!
BUMBLEBEE & SPIKE:
ahhaha!
220 BUMBLEBEE: "Look!"
[Spike's monitor showed Unicron had no effect with the explosion.]
SPIKE:
It isn't even dented...ah shit!
What are we gonna do now?
BUMBLEBEE:
We're being sucked into it!"
[Bumblebee and Spike were being devoured into Unicron. Scene was now cut to Galvatron inside his newly ship.]
GALVATRON:
How dare Unicron, Cybertron and
all it's moons belong to me...!
Argh...ah...!"
[Unicron used some sort of energy
to attack telepathically on Galvatron for questioning his action.]
SCOURGE:
But remember --
we belong to Him.
GALVATRON:
Ibelong to nobody!
[Galvatron falls off the stair as the energy from Unicron intensifies.]