Showing posts with label Humiliation. Show all posts
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Tuesday 20 February 2024

Where's MY Twin?










Christopher Eccleston Breaks Down After Admitting To Bullying | Good Mor...




Q. :
Christopher Eccleston who joins us now
is involved in the Stand up to Bullying campaign --
Have you ever been bullied did
you become A Bully as a result of that....?
What's been your background 
personally in all this -- ?

Chris :
Both. I -- I was bullied at school 
from the age of five by a girlwho 
was seven and it happened every playtime --
playtime became terror time for me, 
she would trap me against the wall,
she would make me do sums -- maths 
as we now call it -- and it really coloured
my life -- I didn't want to go to school 
certainly didn't want to go out at playtime
 but this was in 1969 on a council estate 
in Manchester and my -- as I've grown up 
and I've thought about that girl,  she was --
 how could I say....?
she seemed not as cared-for, physically,
you know, as some of the other children and -- 
and my thought is "God knows what was 
going on at home..." because there
was definitely a sense that this girl
was very very troubled, and 
that's what I take from it really --

Q. :
....and how did that
How did you become A Bully,
make you then become --

Chris :
Well, I was but I --I was bullied there,
 and then when I moved up to the juniors 
I was bullied again by a boy and one of 
the big factors I think, for all people 
who were bullied is shame;
and I could never tell my parents 
that I was being bullied because 
I grew up in quite a macho — 
Macho culture you're supposed 
to stand up to yourself;

If I'd have told my dad he would have flattened
the school and I didn't want that —
eventually told my mom about the second
bully The Boy, but when she came to school, 
I was so terrified that I identified the wrong boy 
so that was a very bad thing —  and then 
there was a period when I bullied 
for a very short period and I did stop it myself
Thank God, but it's A Shame that 
I carry to this day; and I can't —

the pop psychology of it is, I bullied 
because I was bullied
I don't know I don't know that except that 
I know that I feel a great deal of shame.

Q. :
How did your bullying manifest
how did your bullying which you know,
you still think about clearly how
did that manifest itself
what did you Don to 

Chris :
….it was it was um it was a very
sensitive boy in my class and I used at
break time used to make him give me some
of his crisps and I did it a few times
and I'm very very ashamed of it —

Q. :
Extraordinary. You mean — you're getting
emotional as you remember this.... 


Chris :
-- oh yeah
it's been a it's been a great shame and
I would like to apologise to him and you
know who that guy is
I know — I know he's not him here 
I don't know where he is — 

you really feel that
you would like to apologize
of course do you think that he was
Do you think you were bullied by others
subjected to bullying by other people as
well

Chris :
Probably. He was probably like myself
when I went into the infants vulnerable
and sensitive and I mean you can make
the leap of Oh I felt powerless so I
made somebody else feel powerless —

I have to say, you know, saying this um — on
television is very difficult but I did
self-regulate if you like, I did stop myself 
and I can remember doing it now
knowing actually feeling dislike for
myself as I did it so it's 
a very complex thing 

Q. :
What is your advice to —
Advice for people who are being bullied
people who are either being bullied
because you've been that person 
or, who are part of a bullying culture
themselves, what should they be thinking
what should they be doing to try 
and overcome these two things 

those who are
being bullied do me yeah those are with
us those who are being bullying then
those who are doing the bullying well
those who are being bullied bullying you
know I think certainly the culture I
grew up in you were in encouraged not to
tell tales you know and it's called
How to stop bullying
snitching
yes fiction and there's a real you know
in some schools the idea that you would
tell on somebody treating you like that
well it's very friends what I would say
to the person what I would say to the
person who's being bullied don't think
of yourself think of others because if
you point it out to the teachers etc you
are actually preventing this person
bullying somebody else so if you don't
want to do it for yourself do it for
others and if you're doing the bullying
stop.



Q. :
How did you stop the self-regulation
they you talked about, how did you find
the strength to do that --?


Chris :
I -- I just knew it
was wrong from the beginning
and I think I must have come and I can't
say that I remember it it was a boy that
I liked very much
i I went with a feeling that I had the
first time I did it that it was wrong
and I stopped.




Christopher Eccleston on Suffering 
Anorexia Since the Age of Six | Lorraine



Christopher Eccleston became a household name after taking on the role of The Doctor back in 2005 and is now appearing in the hit TV series 'The A Word' but reveals that this role was the only thing keeping him going. 

Christopher, who has suffered from depression and anorexia since the age of six, has published his memoir 
'I Love the Bones of You' which follows his struggles 
with anorexia as a child, to his father's dementia.
Broadcast on 08/10/2019


this is a cracking book and it's also in
Unix it says I love the ones of you my
father in the making of me and a lot of
it is about your your dad yeah what a
man yeah yeah yeah very much a man of
his class
very very bright man very very
hard-working but not given the
opportunities that I've been given see I
identified with so much of this book it
was quite extraordinary it really was
especially what you say about class yeah
you know because sometimes and and you
know that sometimes you got a reputation
to be in a bit chippy 

Mmm.

…because you stood up for yourself —

yeah 

but because of where you're from 
and your background you were called 
chippy rather than assertive.

Oh, well, that's the class system —
interaction is you're a working class
person and you speak out and you're
chippy so who's defining exactly what is
chippy and I would say 
it's the likes of Boris Johnson and 
The Bullingdon Club, you know?


Exactly it's so, it's so interesting,
 there's so many different labels and 
like I said incredibly honest and 
I think about you as a boy what
you must've been about six 
and you looked in the mirror and 
you didn't like what you saw 

Chris :
Yeah, I was very critical --
remember seeing photographs of myself,
and I was critical of my body-composition 
from a very young age; 
don't know whether that was to do with
my identical twin brothers -- I grew up
with identical twin brothers which 
think's can can make you compare, and say
"Well, where's my twin....?”
....might be
pop-psychology, but, yeah --

I think eating disorders are often about
Perfection, an unrealistic idea of 
how we should look, so I think perhaps 
it was going on there you can 
I was thinking "You can look better, 
you can look better pre-puberty, 
so it's -- no idea.


you were going to do that well look like
the drama of being a child we don't
really know what children are I've got a
six year old in a seven year old mmm 

Do we really know how they're perceiving
the world...? oh you doing especially no you
know you really really do it daily I
mean it could have Lincoln killed you
though yeah yeah yeah it could
it's incredible that you're here I mean
you forgot that sort of inner steel I
guess that may come from your dad
because he was like that mom and dad
yeah they were both born in 20s and the
30s
lived through the depression then free
war immediately post-war and there's a
food thing there of course you know
their attitude to food probably inform
my attitude to food what sort of
reaction have you had Christopher to the
book what people been seeing to you I've
been taken aback yeah because I get
stopped
obviously I'm used to being stopped in
the street about the acting work people
are now stopping me and saying thank you
for speaking about depression thank you
for speaking about anorexia dementia I
mean doesn't sound like there's a lot of
laughs in the book but I've tried to do
know it tried to do it in a human human
way and I caused a bit of a wobble a
couple of weeks ago with some of the
issues that are in the book the
intensity and doing things like this
talking about it on television I
understand that completely you do
because yes your weight in a sense has
been an issue on the show ya know we've
talked a bit not a law you know so
there's a pressure there and we spoke
earlier about I was being rewarded with
in the industry for looking a certain
way but to get that way I had to do so
which led to you know mental health
issues guys I mean if you just never you
know what you know what necessarily
taught me deeds in your book you never
know what's going on in other people's
lives
yeah you're really don't you've getting
no idea don't assume and I think when I
eventually I left the first series of
the a word and went straight to hospital
because they had a severe clinical
depression and I think that I've lost my
thread here but I think that has has
taught me to not assume know exactly but
not George I would never have known I
mean I love Thea 

It's coming back isn't
it you've just don't know it is in the
in the new year the third series yeah
and I loved your character dinner though
sometimes I want to become most women in
its life I know and it's such a good
series so well written in so so so later
but no idea that you were going through
all of that just no idea what was
interesting on the first series it
really started to manifest itself for
the first series that the the breakdown
yeah and what I noticed was when I was
on set and I put on Morris's costume and
all this sounds silly or moles but when
I put on Morris's costume I could do my
job
but then when I go back to the hotel
room at night that's when the insomnia
and the anxiety went through the roof
and I'd get through the night on little
sleep and it's that thing of the
importance of a job to people yeah my
job kept me going
so when you were him it's actually all
rain
pretending to be somebody else I mean
it's the the big acting cliche no
absolutely you talks about very movingly
about your dad and about how he had to
deal without same reason how everybody
else joined about him had to do with
that and the fact that your mom really
took heed off and the love between the
two of them yeah my mom cared my mom
cared for my dad for 12 years and she
always said the worst day of her life
was not when my dad died but when she
says when I had to put him in the home
but me and my brothers had to persuade
her to do that because the burden on
burden of care on carers they're
invisible really they saved this country
millions of pounds need you they get no
credit and so yeah mom cared for him for
for at least 12 years through the
variant stages and how do you know how
would you see you oh no if you had to
give yourself a heal to change yeah well
I did have a wobble couple of weeks ago
definitely the pressure of it and the
exposure of talking in this way I know
anyway about anybody but have I done
monetized my personal life and how's it
affected my mom and dad but I think
because I'm a parent mmm I
they Albert and Esme keep me very
focused and that's what happened to me
in the hospital that the consultant just
in Haslam said to me you know if if you
were to take your own life think of the
legacy that would create for your
children and that woke me up as did him
telling me explaining to me my brain
chemistry in the way that a surgeon
would explain somebody's broke yeah yeah
yeah he said you've been in fight off
like mold your brain is exhausted and he
actually he took the curse of it in the
taboo off mental health issues that's
one of the subjects of the book no it's
incredible it's just to take the taboo
or what exactly
you