BILL MOYERS:
What is The Grail representing, then?
JOSEPH CAMPBELL:
Well, The Grail becomes the, what we call it,
That Which is Attained and Realised by People
Who Have Lived Their Own Lives.
So The Story very briefly is of this —
I’m giving it now as Wolfram gives it —
but this is just one version.
The Grail King was a Lovely Young Man,
but he had not EARNED that position.
And The Grail represents The Fulfillment
of The Highest Spiritual Potentialities
of The Human Consciousness.
And he was a Lovely Young Man,
and he rode forth from His Castle
with The War Cry, “Amor!”
And as he’s riding forth, a Moslem,
a pagan warrior, a Mohammedan warrior,
comes out of The Woods, A Knight.
And they both level their lances at each other,
they drive at each other, and The Lance
of The Grail King kills The Mohammedan,
but The Mohammedan Lance
castrates The Grail King.
What that means is that the Christian separation of Matter and Spirit,
of The Dynamism of Life and The Spiritual, Natural Grace
and Supernatural Grace, has really castrated Nature.
And The European Mind, The European Life,
has been as it were, emasculated by this;
True Spirituality, which would have
come from this, has been killed.
And then what did
The Pagan represent?
He was A Person from
The Suburbs of Eden.
He was regarded as A Nature Man,
and on The Head of His Lance
was written The Word, “Grail.”
That is to say, Nature intends The Grail.
Spiritual Life is The Bouquet of Natural Life,
not a supernatural thing imposed upon it.
And so The Impulses of Nature are what
give Authenticity to Life,
not Obeying Rules come from
a Supernatural Authority,
that’s the sense of The Grail.
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